What are your unpopular Stevie opinions

[TheWildHeart67]

She deserves all the hate she gets after the new info told by Lindsay. What an ungrateful witch.

Uh, this wasn't new information. It's pretty much the same thing he told Rolling Stone a while back.
And why should Stevie be indebted to Lindsey for the rest of her life? They hate each other.
You are just as bad as the obsessed Stevie fans, only your obsessed with Buckingham!
He helped her with music, arranging her songs and got her into FM in 1974.
That was over 40 years ago.
Like it or not, Fleetwood Mac would never have been a supergroup without all 5 of the "Rumours" lineup.
Those 5 people made magic together.
Their chemistry.Their voices. Stevie wouldn't have made the band a supergroup without the other 4 members, and Lindsey wouldn't have made the band a supergroup without the other 4 members.
And Stevie also launched a very successful solo career, which at the peak of her solo popularity, she maintained as a member of Fleetwood Mac. She's one of the very few people that maintained a highly popular duel music career without leaving her original band.
You can hate her all you want, but the hate aimed at her is only from the tiny cult following of Lindsey. These boards don't represent the masses, nor do the twitter comments or facebook comments you can bring up.
Fleetwood Mac is selling out arenas right now.
I personally am not interested in seeing this version of Fleetwood Mac. I only care about FM with all 5 fireflies. But I'm not going to vent over and over on online groups about it, or hate a celebrity that I don't know personally.
Whatever went down between those two, we may never find out. The world isn't going to end because of it, and your lives will continue.
Lindsey is worth around $80 million dollars. He'll be fine.
Stevie doesn't have to be forever grateful because Lindsey helped make her a star, because he didn't make her a star. He gave her a platform, yes. But her voice, her charisma and persona is what made her a star.
It sucks that the band will most likely end without the final tour and album of our fave band. But the music will live on. Their reputation will still be legendary. The public will still love them.
Whatever happens will happen.
You can hate Stevie Nicks in these little forums online as much as you want but that's also not going to diminish her image either. The public at large isn't going to care. She'll still be an icon. Because the public at large have their own lives and are more concerned about their own lives and not about Fleetwood Mac breaking up or not.
Just my 2 cents.
Outside these forums, nobody really cares.

[secondhandchain]

An email from Christine to Lindsey "‘Dearest Lindsey, just know that I had nothing to do with any of this. Know that I miss you so much.’ She said, ‘I believe deep in Stevie’s heart that she would like you to come home,'”

None of you believe the unpopular opinion that it was STEVIE ALONE who got Lindsey fired. We all know the truth now. What a lousy thing to do.

[TheWildHeart67]

An email from Christine to Lindsey "‘Dearest Lindsey, just know that I had nothing to do with any of this. Know that I miss you so much.’ She said, ‘I believe deep in Stevie’s heart that she would like you to come home,'”

None of you believe the unpopular opinion that it was STEVIE ALONE who got Lindsey fired. We all know the truth now. What a lousy thing to do.

Cue the violins.
You don't know what he might have said or done to prompt her to do whatever she did.
Neither of these two people are victims.

[studyinscarlet]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

An email from Christine to Lindsey "‘Dearest Lindsey, just know that I had nothing to do with any of this. Know that I miss you so much.’ She said, ‘I believe deep in Stevie’s heart that she would like you to come home,'”

None of you believe the unpopular opinion that it was STEVIE ALONE who got Lindsey fired. We all know the truth now. What a lousy thing to do.

It was the band's decision and they went with having Stevie on tour with them cause let's face it, without Stevie...no ticket sales. That's all. They could have picked Lindsay and told Stevie 'sorry', but they didn't.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67

Uh, this wasn't new information. It's pretty much the same thing he told Rolling Stone a while back.
And why should Stevie be indebted to Lindsey for the rest of her life? They hate each other.
You are just as bad as the obsessed Stevie fans, only your obsessed with Buckingham!
He helped her with music, arranging her songs and got her into FM in 1974.
That was over 40 years ago.
Like it or not, Fleetwood Mac would never have been a supergroup without all 5 of the "Rumours" lineup.
Those 5 people made magic together.
Their chemistry.Their voices. Stevie wouldn't have made the band a supergroup without the other 4 members, and Lindsey wouldn't have made the band a supergroup without the other 4 members.
And Stevie also launched a very successful solo career, which at the peak of her solo popularity, she maintained as a member of Fleetwood Mac. She's one of the very few people that maintained a highly popular duel music career without leaving her original band.
You can hate her all you want, but the hate aimed at her is only from the tiny cult following of Lindsey. These boards don't represent the masses, nor do the twitter comments or facebook comments you can bring up.
Fleetwood Mac is selling out arenas right now.
I personally am not interested in seeing this version of Fleetwood Mac. I only care about FM with all 5 fireflies. But I'm not going to vent over and over on online groups about it, or hate a celebrity that I don't know personally.
Whatever went down between those two, we may never find out. The world isn't going to end because of it, and your lives will continue.
Lindsey is worth around $80 million dollars. He'll be fine.
Stevie doesn't have to be forever grateful because Lindsey helped make her a star, because he didn't make her a star. He gave her a platform, yes. But her voice, her charisma and persona is what made her a star.
It sucks that the band will most likely end without the final tour and album of our fave band. But the music will live on. Their reputation will still be legendary. The public will still love them.
Whatever happens will happen.
You can hate Stevie Nicks in these little forums online as much as you want but that's also not going to diminish her image either. The public at large isn't going to care. She'll still be an icon. Because the public at large have their own lives and are more concerned about their own lives and not about Fleetwood Mac breaking up or not.
Just my 2 cents.
Outside these forums, nobody really cares.

I have to agree with virtually everything you said, wildheart. I'd like to add that this band has benefited every member a thousand times over, so FM owes nothing to Lindsey anymore, or Stevie, or Christine. They have all sacrificed plenty for FM, but their returns have been bountiful.

[cbBen]

The Stones have benefited Keith Richards tremendously. But if they kicked him out and deigned to still call themselves the Rolling Stones, it would take a toll on the band's name and legacy.

Not exactly the same, but close enough.

[Feather Blade]

Originally Posted by cbBen

The Stones have benefited Keith Richards tremendously. But if they kicked him out and deigned to still call themselves the Rolling Stones, it would take a toll on the band's name and legacy.

Not exactly the same, but close enough.

The Stones went on without Richards a long time ago. Guy looks like he's been dead for decades. It must take a complicated marionette set-up to puppeteer his dried up corpse through a show.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by cbBen

The Stones have benefited Keith Richards tremendously. But if they kicked him out and deigned to still call themselves the Rolling Stones, it would take a toll on the band's name and legacy.

Not exactly the same, but close enough.

Firing Keith would be like firing John. Firing Lindsey was more akin to firing Ron Wood.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Firing Keith would be like firing John. Firing Lindsey was more akin to firing Ron Wood.

What are you smoking man? I know you've been bending over backwards to minimize the ridiculousness of the most recent lineup change in Fleetwood Mac, but Lindsey Buckingham is the Ron Wood of the band?

Mick and John are not the Mick and Keith of Fleetwood Mac. Quite honestly, with the 'tourists' who go to a Mac show and are cool with randomly inserted new band members in year 52 and a bunch of solo or non-related cover songs in the setlist, Mick and John could probably be replaced with unknowns and as long as Rhiannon, Landslide, Don't Stop, and Go Your Own Way were played - half of the audience wouldn't even notice or care.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Quite honestly, with the 'tourists' who go to a Mac show and are cool with randomly inserted new band members in year 52 and a bunch of solo or non-related cover songs in the setlist, Mick and John could probably be replaced with unknowns and as long as Rhiannon, Landslide, Don't Stop, and Go Your Own Way were played - half of the audience wouldn't even notice or care.

I think people who pay $200-$400 for a concert ticket are more than 'tourists.' I know you want to think that 'real fans' wouldn't go to a FM show because Lindsey was fired, but they are going, and they're having a great time. I'm one of them. The concert was incredible, the best FM show I'd ever seen, and this was my fifth tour. This is not a dig on Lindsey, it was just an incredible show. You're right about the fans wanting to hear songs they know and love. What are your thoughts when Lindsey plays Trouble, Holiday Road, Go Your Own Way, or Tusk on his solo tour?

If you're a fan of Lindsey's that can't get over his firing, then let's be honest- nothing FM did from now on would have been good. If they sang a LB song, they were being disrespectful; if they didn't sing a LB song, they were being disrespectful.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I think people who pay $200-$400 for a concert ticket are more than 'tourists.' I know you want to think that 'real fans' wouldn't go to a FM show because Lindsey was fired, but they are going, and they're having a great time. I'm one of them. The concert was incredible, the best FM show I'd ever seen, and this was my fifth tour. This is not a dig on Lindsey, it was just an incredible show. You're right about the fans wanting to hear songs they know and love. What are your thoughts when Lindsey plays Trouble, Holiday Road, Go Your Own Way, or Tusk on his solo tour?

If you're a fan of Lindsey's that can't get over his firing, then let's be honest- nothing FM did from now on would have been good. If they sang a LB song, they were being disrespectful; if they didn't sing a LB song, they were being disrespectful.

I'm a fan of the band, not a Lindsey fan. On another thread I just posted about this - it's irksome to me that everyone who isn't happy with what happened over the last 12 months is apparently assumed to be a rabid Lindsey fan who is pissed with Fleetwood Mac for firing him. I'm a Fleetwood Mac fan, a Rumours era fan, who is pissed at the rest of the band for firing and replacing him. I am not a Lindsey or a Stevie fan. I like some of their solo stuff, but am in no way a huge fan of one of the individuals whom I firmly believe are better together than they have ever been apart or with others. To me, Fleetwood Mac is the five of them - unless one of them decides to no longer be part of it (a la the Songbird from '98 to '14).

I didn't make a dig about them playing hits. I made a dig at Steve's inference that Lindsey Buckingham is as dispensable to Fleetwood Mac as Ronnie Wood is in the Stones and that firing Keith Richards would be the equivalent of John McVie getting the boot. My dig was that quite honestly the tourists (classic rock concert 'tourists' can and do pay that much, it's 2018, those aren't unheard of prices for a brand like Fleetwood Mac) would likely be fine with John and Mick being replaced altogether because they aren't the Keith and Mick of Fleetwood Mac.

[TheWildHeart67]

Quite honestly, most opinions that are negative on the ledge don't go too far off this board.. The predictions that the FM tour would not sell out was incorrect, Stevie getting Lindsey fired didn't prevent her from being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, many things, lot of bitter angry people on here but in the real world, it's not the end of the world.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67

He helped her with music, arranging her songs and got her into FM in 1974.
That was over 40 years ago.
.

1977- Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Silver Springs
1979- Sara, Storms, Angel
1982- Gypsy
All songs that would NOT have been a fraction as good as they are without his help. Listen to her songwriting demo of Gypsy and see all the layers he added in. Sara? Listen to the crescendoing backing vocals he added to give the song some much needed momentum, his sparkling and stellar acoustic playing on Silver Springs, along with his solo make that song, all the guitars, and sitars ad other effects on GDW were not her ideas.....etc etc etc

Oh and when she gets stuck on solo songs (many, but Soldier's Angel was one of the more recent ones) she calls him.

Petty said that Lindsey "is her best producer. I can be up all night trying to figure out what to do with one of her songs and then he'll go 'do this' and I'll think, yeah, duh, that's so obvious"

She could not get her songs out in a way that would have gotten them played and listened to by a wide audience without other people - Lindsey, Jimmy, Tom, Dave, Rupert.........and all the actual musicians. Lindsey can do a whole album by himself.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67

Uh, this wasn't new information. It's pretty much the same thing he told Rolling Stone a while back.
And why should Stevie be indebted to Lindsey for the rest of her life? They hate each other.
You are just as bad as the obsessed Stevie fans, only your obsessed with Buckingham!
He helped her with music, arranging her songs and got her into FM in 1974.
That was over 40 years ago.
Like it or not, Fleetwood Mac would never have been a supergroup without all 5 of the "Rumours" lineup.
Those 5 people made magic together.
Their chemistry.Their voices. Stevie wouldn't have made the band a supergroup without the other 4 members, and Lindsey wouldn't have made the band a supergroup without the other 4 members.
And Stevie also launched a very successful solo career, which at the peak of her solo popularity, she maintained as a member of Fleetwood Mac. She's one of the very few people that maintained a highly popular duel music career without leaving her original band.
You can hate her all you want, but the hate aimed at her is only from the tiny cult following of Lindsey. These boards don't represent the masses, nor do the twitter comments or facebook comments you can bring up.
Fleetwood Mac is selling out arenas right now.
I personally am not interested in seeing this version of Fleetwood Mac. I only care about FM with all 5 fireflies. But I'm not going to vent over and over on online groups about it, or hate a celebrity that I don't know personally.
Whatever went down between those two, we may never find out. The world isn't going to end because of it, and your lives will continue.
Lindsey is worth around $80 million dollars. He'll be fine.
Stevie doesn't have to be forever grateful because Lindsey helped make her a star, because he didn't make her a star. He gave her a platform, yes. But her voice, her charisma and persona is what made her a star.
It sucks that the band will most likely end without the final tour and album of our fave band. But the music will live on. Their reputation will still be legendary. The public will still love them.
Whatever happens will happen.
You can hate Stevie Nicks in these little forums online as much as you want but that's also not going to diminish her image either. The public at large isn't going to care. She'll still be an icon. Because the public at large have their own lives and are more concerned about their own lives and not about Fleetwood Mac breaking up or not.
Just my 2 cents.
Outside these forums, nobody really cares.

Excellent post. I agree with most of what is said here and this is the place I'm settling into these days from all the controversy of the past year.

I am looking forward to seeing Lindsey in concert next year, as it appears my chances of doing so are good. And highly anticipate his new album. As Lindsey said, I'd much rather look to the future than to the past.