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When we were all here, years back, discussing Stevie's comments about people stealing her music online, I never felt that she meant us then either.
Maybe I'm wrong, but through everything else she's ever said -- both publicly to the media, and privately to fans -- I get the feeling she knows we're as protective of her music as she is. (By the way -- I love the term "focused fans." Sounds so much nicer than "diehards!") |
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I do often wonder what it is that keeps Stevie from just quitting Fleetwood Mac. Does she just want to tour with them? Tours are certainly lucrative, especially if you make your fans wait for three years at a time. Anyway, I know she's said she feels loyal to Fleetwood Mac and that it probably represented a dream that's hard to let go for a dreamer like her, but if it causes her more pain than joy, why bother. But I'm sure if she tried to quit Mick would make it a bit of a pain. I do believe what he says about her being a good bandmate, IOW a team player, but she's a team player who ultimately ends up resenting a lot of things (rightly or wrongly), it just seems like a lot of unnecessary unhappiness.
(I'm not saying I do or don't want her to quit, that's her choice AFAIAC.) |
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I've seen the argument that you made about us being the ones who buy several copies of things, one to save unopened, one for the car, one to play at home, etc. in many posts, but it was usually an argument being made hoping that she would change her stance. Michele |
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In other words, she's only in it for the fame and fortune, not the artistic merit. Good to know.
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Well, she's into her solo work for artistic merit. To be honest the same has seemed at least somewhat true of Lindsey Buckingham too, based on his big-machine-little-machine speeches. I've wanted to know for a while if anyone in the band still needs Fleetwood Mac for a creative oulet (as vs either money or nostalgia/emotional healing).
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I've never understood why, for so many fans, it has to be an either/or proposition. She's worked damned hard to be acknowledged for her songwriting talents, and continues to write to this day. Her desire to also make money doesn't negate that.
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Other than that, John's the only one I can think of.
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For me, I think it's that I'm around people who put out music without compromising their artistic visions, regardless of how much a records sells. And, at least one of those guys has written considerably more songs than Stevie could dream of writing, and he definitely doesn't pray to the hit gods.
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To play devil's advocate, I've never heard people talk about how hard it is to work with Stevie as much as how hard it is (or could be, anyway) to work with Lindsey. I know he has worked hard to overcome a lot of demons, but who knows, there might still be issues. If the process is likely to be just plain unpleasant for Stevie, I can see why she'd need a greater incentive, as someone said above, to balance things out and make it more worthwhile for her. Christine would help. Production of her songs that she actually liked would help. Interactions that didn't rub salt in old wounds would help. Otherwise, if it's artistic merit she wants, she has her solo career for that.
Stevie seems to love to collaborate, with anyone and everyone but the Fleetwood Mac guys it seems. (And I'm still not sure that means Lindsey wants this new record for purely artistic purposes, but I'm sure it's not black and white for anyone involved.) |
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It's great that you know someone who doesn't care whether he gets rich making music. I know & respect people like that too -- including my best buddy, who's a drummer and a songwriter. I still don't see why Stevie should be blamed for wanting to do what she loves and make money at the same time, or have her artistic integrity questioned because of it. |
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Lindsey hasn't worked with a lot of people outside of FM, but Egan, Stewart and Welch didn't seem to complain about him. You're right. As Stevie said in 2003 that Lindsey had been out of her life a long time and she doesn't need him to make her music come true anymore. She has other ways to be creative and it's a more enjoyable, fulfilling thing to do outside of FM these days. I wish she would just say that. You mentioned working with another producer and so did Stevie. So, that's what Lindsey tried to do. He went about it the wrong way, I think, pulling Mitchell Froom out of a hat like a rabbit. But he was responding to what Stevie said. If the truth is she doesn't want to work with him even with an outside producer, then she should just say so. If you come over to my house and I offer you apple pie, if you say, "No, I don't like apple pie," then I will not pester you about pie again. However, if you say, "Oh, no it looks delicious, but I just ate," then I'm going to wait for an hour until your appetite dissipates and then I'm going to ask you again if you want apple pie. When you give me excuses, I'm going to try to resolve your objectons and it's not because I don't respect your wishes, it's because you made me think that under certain circumstances, you WILL want pie. When you just tell me you're not interested in my pie, I guess I'll finally leave you alone. Michele |
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In fact, other than Glyn Johns, just about everyone she worked with during the "drug years" continues to work with her to this day. I think that says a lot. Meanwhile, I don't necessarily think that Lindsey is hard to work with (although Ken sure seems to think so!), but he may be hard for Stevie to work with. Just too much baggage there. |
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(Meant to reply to this earlier....)
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It must have been something on which my thoughts evolved, the more I contemplated it. Either way, please strike the word "never" from my earlier post. Last edited by Johnny Stew; 02-18-2013 at 04:08 AM.. |
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What KILLED me about the whole album thing was how stealthily and carefully Lindsey, John, and Mick went about setting up the whole thing. They learned from their mistakes from SYW, got the outside producer who was under the radar and recorded half of a Fleetwood Mac album.
Now Stevie is full of sh*t when she says she didn't have any material recorded? Um Stevie...'You Can't Fix This?' She contradicted EVERYTHING she said in the FM tour press by going out and recording a new song (that effing rocks) with the Foo Fighters. If I were Lindsey, I'd be like wtfff! I think the lack of sales (even though the album was in the limelight) and aggressive tour schedule effected the Mac album. I'm devastated. Lindsey and Stevie are both peaking right now creatively. I can only imagine what new Mac material would have sounded like. |
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