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Old 04-27-2020, 08:06 PM
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Yes it is, actually for quite some time. As is the endless ruining of threads by haters. I come here once in a while wanting to engage in a thread or two in the Stevie forum and find that it’s been hijacked by people (person, really) who for whatever reason spend their time posting on threads about people they hate.

This is not the first time that it’s been said Stevie needed a man to turn her songs into anything.

If I as a 50 year old man can see the endless misogyny, others can too. They are just choosing not to.

As for the thread topic, I hope that I Don’t Care isn’t her final solo song as I can barely tolerate it. Would be much better if Soldier’s Angel.

I can't recall anyone saying she needed a MAN.

The harsh reality is she needs SOMEONE who is a far better musician than she is to turn her songs from nice demos to actual songs that would get played on the radio (she herself says this). Sheryl Crow was one of those people.

The reality is, Stevie herself is prejudiced against other women. SHe's said many many times (not that long ago again) that she doesn't like listening to the advice or inputs of other women in her career or her songs. Christine and Sheryl seem to be notable exceptions. She likes working with men and being the main girl so the reality is, by her choice most of her collaborators and cowriters have all been men.

I don't think most people on here think she HAS to work with a MAN to get her songs out, but that for the most part is has BEEN men who have turned her raw material into radio playable hits. Her choice.

And when the hell did having a different opinion become "hating"?? I own everything this woman has ever recorded (often multiple copies) and have gone to see her live for decades. I love her stuff but am also able to see her flaws. Most of her demos, especially as the years went on, are very monotonic and are, as she herself described them, her plonking with two fingers on the keyboard. Yes she writes the top end-- the melody and lyrics-- but she doesn't give musicians much to work with. By Chris's own description Lindsey had to figure out what Christine should play on Stevie's songs because Chris couldn't make heads or tails of them, and by Benmont's own account Jimmy had Benmont sit with her and do the same-- figure out what the musicians could play from her solo demos. Fact, like it or not. Could it have been done by a woman? Technically yes, but Stevie wouldn't have allowed it.
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:29 PM
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I also looked at liner notes for 24 Karat Gold for the regular cd, not deluxe: Lyrics were by Stevie Nicks, Music was by Waddy and Michael Campbell
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