Lindsey discusses his firing (Rolling Stone)

dreamsunwind · #1 11-08-2018, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Hmmm. What makes you feel this way dreamsunwind?

He's one of the most famous great, great guitar players of all time. People put him right up at the top with Hendrix and Clapton. From one of the biggest great, great rock bands. Is there a band aside from The Beatles or The Stones that was bigger than Led Zeppelin? There's literally no reason to think he would have any interest in joining Fleetwood Mac and play a bunch of Lindsey Buckingham parts on their greatest hits tour when they're all 70. As much as I love the band, it would be beneath him lol.

cbBen · #2 11-08-2018, 08:43 PM

I'm sorry all this talk of Jimmy Page was kicked off by my aside "with Mike Campbell now available."

I realize now that I could have, without mentioning Campbell, left it at "they decided in November 2017 to fire Lindsey but couldn't make any move until after the Musicares event."

Jimmy Page hasn't toured in about 20 years. He has more money than Campbell and Finn put together x20 (at least).

There is no way he would have joined Fleetwood Mac.

Yes, they could have found someone other than Mike Campbell, but there is no way Jimmy Page would have joined.

Mick Taylor, formerly of the Rolling Stones, would perhaps have been a possibility, but Campbell (at least at this stage) is a better player.

elle · #3 11-08-2018, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen

"they decided in November 2017 to fire Lindsey but couldn't make any move until after the Musicares event."

i think that's very close to truth. if you find some actual proof of this, i'm sure Lindsey could put it to good use in his lawsuit!

Mick and Stevie were cavorting so much in the fall of 2017 and were seen all over the world together that people started being really curious about the new dynamic in FM when they regroup - with Mick & Stevie at one end and Lindsey & Christine at the other. but Mick & Stevie had something more sinister in mind beyond what anyone expected!

cbBen · #4 11-08-2018, 09:36 PM

With the exception of the shows with the Black Crowes, Jimmy Page doesn't play other people's music, and even in those shows it was still mainly Zeppelin tunes. No way he would do Fleetwood Mac songs as the main thing, with just a few Zeppelin tunes thrown in.

Not in a million years.

If he ever comes out of his retirement (which is going on 20 years now), it will be with his own music.

cbBen · #5 11-08-2018, 11:27 PM

Don Felder (formerly of the Eagles) would also have been a possibility had Mike Campbell not been available (though, on second thought, I doubt they could have worked that out given the bad blood between Felder and Irving Azoff).

I suspect Stevie or Irving Azoff put the feelers out to Mike Campbell in November 2017 as soon as Lindsey walked out of the band meeting where they could not agree on the tour schedule. Something like "If you were to get a call next year about joining, might you be interested?" When Mike said yes, the plan was hatched.

dreamsunwind · #6 11-09-2018, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cbBen

Don Felder (formerly of the Eagles) would also have been a possibility had Mike Campbell not been available (though, on second thought, I doubt they could have worked that out given the bad blood between Felder and Irving Azoff).

I agree, I think that could've actually made sense in theory but it would've never happened because of what happened with Felder and The Eagles.

cbBen · #7 11-09-2018, 08:34 AM

Had Mike not agreed to join, or had he not been available, they probably either wouldn't have fired Lindsey or they would have gone with Waddy Wachtel from Stevie's band.

FuzzyPlum · #8 11-09-2018, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

He's one of the most famous great, great guitar players of all time. People put him right up at the top with Hendrix and Clapton. From one of the biggest great, great rock bands. Is there a band aside from The Beatles or The Stones that was bigger than Led Zeppelin? There's literally no reason to think he would have any interest in joining Fleetwood Mac and play a bunch of Lindsey Buckingham parts on their greatest hits tour when they're all 70. As much as I love the band, it would be beneath him lol.

...and that was exactly my initial reaction.
Then you realise he's idle not though choice but because he doesn't have a band to play with. More than anything he wants to write/tour/record with Led Zep but Robert Plant isn't interested. He comes across as quite sad to no longer have that in his life. He's tried putting his own band together in recent times but it hasn't come off. Of course he doesn't need the money but I don't think the idea that its 'beneath him' would come into it. He just likes playing live music to big audiences. Not saying he'd definitely have said yes, but I think there's a decent chance.

cbBen · #9 11-09-2018, 01:58 AM

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He just likes playing live music to big audiences

Yes, but his own music.

HomerMcvie · #10 11-09-2018, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cbBen

Yes, but his own music.

I agree. Jimmy Page has a status to maintain. An image. A brand. Mike Campbell does as well, but to a MUCH lesser degree. Page is a f*cking ICON. As big as Old Goat Breath... bigger.

dreamsunwind · #11 11-09-2018, 02:57 AM

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I agree. Jimmy Page has a status to maintain. An image. A brand. Mike Campbell does as well, but you a MUCH lesser degree. Page is a f*cking ICON. As big as Old Goat Breath... bigger.

Oh I'd say he's much, much bigger than Stevie. My foreign grandparents don't have the slightest clue what Fleetwood Mac is or who Stevie Nicks is but they've heard of Led Zeppelin and of Jimmy Page.

dreamsunwind · #12 11-09-2018, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

...and that was exactly my initial reaction.
Then you realise he's idle not though choice but because he doesn't have a band to play with. More than anything he wants to write/tour/record with Led Zep but Robert Plant isn't interested. He comes across as quite sad to no longer have that in his life. He's tried putting his own band together in recent times but it hasn't come off. Of course he doesn't need the money but I don't think the idea that its 'beneath him' would come into it. He just likes playing live music to big audiences. Not saying he'd definitely have said yes, but I think there's a decent chance.

I disagree, I don't think there would be any chance. He's Jimmy Page-- if he wants to go out and play he can go out on his own or form his own band or a supergroup or something. But he's not gonna hop onto the (sinking) ship of a band that is nowhere near the status of the group that he's synonymous with. That would be like if Mick and Keith got into some final fight and made it so that the Stones can never tour again so Mick goes and joins The Eagles. It would be bizarre.