should FM release the album without SN's songs?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

If Stevie is in fact dead set against recording with FM again what will it take for them to realize it...
I don't mean to sound harsh but it is what it is...

Hard to say what it will take, since they are pretty dumb and the more of them that are involved, the dumber they get. Like, if I had hoped that Christine's return might be the tipping point which would make them a little shrewder about these sort of things, I now see that it made them collectively more stupid.

Michele

[ragrsrocalot]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

The boys have been trying to "get Stevie on board" with recording for 5 years now with no luck...Mick wanted to get the band together in early (Feb) of 2010 and see if they wanted to work on an album or tour and Stevie said NO and then started working on "IYD"...The boys started recording without her hoping she would like what they were doing an get on board with them...Stevie declined to participate (except for "Without You" which didn't turn out very well)...Christine has returned and time has been purchased at the Village and as far as we know Stevie was never there...If Stevie is in fact dead set against recording with FM again what will it take for them to realize it...
I don't mean to sound harsh but it is what it is...

I agree. I know she has been reluctant to record with the Mac. But I haven't heard her say that she NEVER wouldn't either. So I don't know how it will play out.

[elle]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

They should wait. But I don't believe in ANY quality anymore now it's heading this way.

Christines songs cannot be ready yet, they just started a week or two max. In march. Maybe Lindsey is working alone on them now.

I think it is weird. Mick even said : she is doing it quick we hope.
I'm not going to say more about her behaviour. Before I'm called hostile again.

But still, in 2014, with this line-up, there has to be some steviesongs before we can call it a FM album. Especially since Chris is back.

i expected that vote from you, you've been consistent in wanting the chemistry of the 5, from the ground up.

by my math, considering it's the end of april, march and april would be more like a month or 2. if Stevie can record the full album in 2 weeks from scratch, why would you think FM can't finish 4-6 Christine's songs they had demos for beforehand in 2 months?

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Hard to say what it will take, since they are pretty dumb and the more of them that are involved, the dumber they get. Like, if I had hoped that Christine's return might be the tipping point which would make them a little shrewder about these sort of things, I now see that it made them collectively more stupid.

Michele

i love you!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

I think it is weird. Mick even said : she is doing it quick we hope.
I'm not going to say more about her behaviour. Before I'm called hostile again.

I never said you were hostile toward Stevie. I said you were hostile toward many a Stevie fan.

[elle]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Hmmm, maybe I should have voted for the third option.

yes, you should have!

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I never said you were hostile toward Stevie. I said you were hostile toward many a Stevie fan.

What's the difference.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by elle

i expected that vote from you, you've been consistent in wanting the chemistry of the 5, from the ground up.

by my math, considering it's the end of april, march and april would be more like a month or 2. if Stevie can record the full album in 2 weeks from scratch, why would you think FM can't finish 4-6 Christine's songs they had demos for beforehand in 2 months?

I think they really said goodbye to eachother at the end of that America todaything in Stevie's house. They just worked out some tracks from Chris. But I don't think they are still working there. But maybe Linds took the track home to arrange vocaltracks and guitarparts.

And, of course fooling around with his friggin trivial selfcalled productionvalues...

[ragrsrocalot]

Originally Posted by elle

ah ok. somehow i have a feeling that mutually agreed amount of time has long passed or they could never mutually agree on it.

not saying "i'll pass" but not saying "i'm in" either while insisting "i will never break up this band" and at the same time going "but band should wait till she cleared up her schedule" is not fair towards the rest of the band. you can't say to your employer they should wait till you are done with your hobby. either the band is first, or solo career is first. either is fine, but you can't be sitting on both chairs at the same time.

I guess that depends on who your employer is.

[BLY]

I have a feeling she has done her "part" with the MAC project and has moved on. If they plan on releasing a 12/13 track disc it could be done. Stevie has only contributed two to maybe three tracks to an album when Chris was on on board so.........

[elle]

Originally Posted by BLY

I have a feeling she has done her "part" with the MAC project and has moved on. If they plan on releasing a 12/13 track disc it could be done. Stevie has only contributed two to maybe three tracks to an album when Chris was on on board so.........

i love your optimism!

[jcalzaretta]

FM without Stevie won't sell. She is the one keeping this band relevant. This would be foolish to do without her. Absolutely foolish.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jcalzaretta

FM without Stevie won't sell. She is the one keeping this band relevant. This would be foolish to do without her. Absolutely foolish.

new FM album won't sell with or without Stevie. it's absolutely foolish to think it would. plus that was not the question.

what keeps the band relevant is new music, not nostalgia tours. thinking that no new music and never-ending money-grabbing nostalgia tours keep the band relevant is foolish. absolutely foolish.

[CreepingDeath]

Originally Posted by elle

i love your optimism!

There's no room for that here.

[moon]

I think it's time to a new release, with or without the SN work. I really want to hear songs from everyon!!!
We know that Stevie always had a little piece on the albums; 2 songs in FM and Rumours, 3 songs in Mirage and Tango...
Even when it's time to see more SN songs on an album, and even when both with Lindsey released new works recently (2011), we can't compare. Lindsey will have more songs. So I think it's ok, if the new album must be released now.
Regards!!