Which Christine McVie song from Tusk is your favorite?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

As long as Stevie was in the lineup, they were golden. Stevie was having a career skyrocket from 94-96, right?

OTOH, what songs were covered Smashing Pumpkins and Hole during those years? Realistically, all Stevie needed was to quit smoking, drop some weight, and get a makeover. She could have done a special on her own, maybe with relevant artists of the day, like Dave Grohl. It probably wouldn’t have been as impactful on her career, but she had less ground to make up compared to Lindsey and the Brits. Street Angel peaked at #45, just like Go Insane.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

That’s exactly my point. Everyone uncoupling was the reason for the success. It’s the freak show. It was the freak show of Lindsey leaving ten years later that boosted the sales of TITN.

Lindsey leaving in 87 had nothing to do with the sales of TITN. It had everything to do with how good the album was. Especially, and mainly the tour de force that was Buckingham and McVie. Buckingham and McVie under the guise of FM and in a more potent and formidable time. Their second best selling album of all time had NOTHING to do with Lindsey leaving. Quite the opposite.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

She’s a singer songwriter. She writes lyrics, chord progressions, and melodies and she’s a brilliant harmony vocalist. Stevie’s stage presence, though, is what made her indispensable back then. Even then, she was the star of the show.


That’s exactly my point. Everyone uncoupling was the reason for the success. It’s the freak show. It was the freak show of Lindsey leaving ten years later that boosted the sales of TITN.


Mick’s drums, John’s bass, and especially Christine’s keyboards are every bit as memorable as the guitars. That was the epitome of a group effort. (I still love what they did on “wrap around your dreams”).


Except that memorable bass line that seems to get cranked another 10db every tour. That’s another band effort, especially Christine’s keyboard playing.


Who cares about Billy and Rick? They weren’t in the Rumours lineup, which was the whole point of The Dance.


Who cares about Billy or Rick? Outside of maybe “Do You Know,” I can’t think of anything they brought to the table that would have worked for either Neil or Mike. I was slightly disappointed they didn’t do “Freedom,” which was an obvious choice. That said, they did two Peter Green (later three) songs, a Danny Kirwan song, a Bob Welch song (briefly), and a song from Time.

ETA: I can’t state how strongly I disagree with your notion that any drummer could do what Mick does. Mick, John, and Christine have a groove that’s never been duplicated during solo shows. Take any one of them out of the equation and the song starts to suffer. But, the terrible, amateurish version of “Rhiannon” by Buckingham Nicks is really all the evidence one needs to hear what the Brits brought to the table.

Lindsey leaving the band did not boost sales of Tango In The Night. You just make stuff up. Tango peaked inside the top 10 during Big Love and fell out of the top 10 after Big Love faded. Seven Wonders barely cracked the top 20 and sales went down. The third single "Little Lies" was the biggest single (highest charting) of the album. If album sales increased slightly it was because of a hit single, not because of Lindsey leaving the band. Tango was so radio friendly it should have sold far more copies than it actually did. But Lindsey leaving the band had little to do either way about album sales. When you get a big HIT song, it will make album sales spike. Lindsey left right as Little Lies was released.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by jwd

Lindsey leaving in 87 had nothing to do with the sales of TITN. It had everything to do with how good the album was. Especially, and mainly the tour de force that was Buckingham and McVie. Buckingham and McVie under the guise of FM and in a more potent and formidable time. Their second best selling album of all time had NOTHING to do with Lindsey leaving. Quite the opposite.

There is no use trying . He actually believes that the chart positions of Little Lies and Everywhere on both sides of the Atlantic were significantly goosed by Lindsey leaving Fleetwood Mac.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jwd

Lindsey leaving in 87 had nothing to do with the sales of TITN. It had everything to do with how good the album was.

LOL, keep telling yourself that. The highest charting hit was released two or three weeks after he left and it topped MTV’s Top 20 videos two weeks in a row. Yep. Nothing to do with the drama. Purely coincidental.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by stevemacd

lol, keep telling yourself that. The highest charting hit was released two or three weeks after he left and it topped mtv’s top 20 videos two weeks in a row. Yep. Nothing to do with the drama. Purely coincidental.

He was in the video! Lol! Like he never left.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

OTOH, what songs were covered Smashing Pumpkins and Hole during those years? Realistically, all Stevie needed was to quit smoking, drop some weight, and get a makeover. She could have done a special on her own, maybe with relevant artists of the day, like Dave Grohl. It probably wouldn’t have been as impactful on her career, but she had less ground to make up compared to Lindsey and the Brits. Street Angel peaked at #45, just like Go Insane.

Did you know Stevie said to Lindsey that he made Landslide the song that it is? Redaction is tempting to you?

Did Rick Vito or Billy Burnette have any of their albums chart in the Top 50?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jwd

He was in the video! Lol! Like he never left.

Just the opposite. It felt like the video was ominous to him leaving, especially the last scene, where he fades away. Everyone knew that was the last time, at least for the foreseeable future, that we’d get a glimpse of those five together. An end of an era in a way that felt every bit as voyeuristic as a decade prior.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Did you know Stevie said to Lindsey that he made Landslide the song that it is? Redaction is tempting to you?

Do you think that mattered to anyone who didn’t follow the band?

Did Rick Vito or Billy Burnette have any of their albums chart in the Top 50?

No, but Crowded House and Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers did

[jwd]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Just the opposite. It felt like the video was ominous to him leaving, especially the last scene, where he fades away. Everyone knew that was the last time, at least for the foreseeable future, that we’d get a glimpse of those five together. An end of an era in a way that felt every bit as voyeuristic as a decade prior.

People fell in love with "Little Lies" whether or not they saw the video. How could you not fall in love with the hooks in that song? Most people had forgotten the melodrama by then. It was the SONG!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jwd

People fell in love with "Little Lies" whether or not they saw the video. How could you not fall in love with the hooks in that song? Most people had forgotten the melodrama by then. It was the SONG!

Nobody forgot about the melodrama. It got mentioned almost all the time. Remember, they were starting to promote an upcoming tour without Lindsey. Not saying Little Lies isn’t a great song, but it absolutely benefited from the drama.

[jwd]

"Little Lies" is my favorite Chris song from Tusk.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jwd

"Little Lies" is my favorite Chris song from Tusk.

Interesting.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Sentence 2: Those are bands, not solo acts.

Top 50 AND a solo artist??? Fleetwood Mac could NEVER find someone like that...

Well, except Dave Mason, but he only had SEVEN Top 50 albums. I guess they could have brought back Bob Welch in 1997, since he had two Top 20 albums. How many Top 20 albums did Lindsey have?

Also, those dudes came into the band to play songs Lindsey wrote

Yes, those timeless Lindsey Buckingham classics like I Got You, Don’t Dream It’s Over, Tell Me All The Things You Do, Oh Well, Hypnotized, Black Magic Woman, Man of the World, Free Fallin’, and anything Stevie or Christine wrote.

They couldn't even make an EP. Both guys said before the tour that the expectation was to make new FM music

For much the same reason why we got LBCM and not another Fleetwood Mac album. They were up for it and still are.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Lindsey leaving the band did not boost sales of Tango In The Night. You just make stuff up. Tango peaked inside the top 10 during Big Love and fell out of the top 10 after Big Love faded. Seven Wonders barely cracked the top 20 and sales went down. The third single "Little Lies" was the biggest single (highest charting) of the album. If album sales increased slightly it was because of a hit single, not because of Lindsey leaving the band. Tango was so radio friendly it should have sold far more copies than it actually did. But Lindsey leaving the band had little to do either way about album sales. When you get a big HIT song, it will make album sales spike. Lindsey left right as Little Lies was released.

Tango did sell a lot of copies .It is just that most of them were not in the U.S. .Worldwide it did around 15 million.I agree Lindsey leaving has nothing to do with sales.