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Old 03-26-2006, 10:08 AM
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Yesterday I received a CD with some "Live at the BBC" tracks on it. I've not heard many of them before but I think they've been doing the rounds for a while - "Whole Lotta Love", "Mean Old World", Jeremy's "Intergalactic Musicians Walking On Velvet" etc. Also on there was an early version of "World In Harmony", and the radio announcer introduces it as an as-yet-untitled instrumental, and asks Danny if he's thought of any names for it yet. Danny says no, and they play it - good performance too.

Afterwards the announcer asks, "Did anything come up during the time you were playing it, Dan?"
"No, no."
"Umm... who's your best friend?"
"My best friend? My mum, I reckon."
"What's her name?"
"Phyllis."
Then the announcer declares to the crowd, "That was called 'Phyllis'..."

Luckily Danny decided to call it "World In Harmony" instead

It's Mother's Day over here today, and I thought that was a nice coincidence that I heard that for the first time today
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Old 03-26-2006, 11:24 AM
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Hi bretonbanquet - that version of "World In Harmony" with Danny's "Phyllis" reference is from the 9 April 1970 BBC radio show - actually the last "live" recording of the song that I'm aware of. While all the songs from this performance were included on the Show-Biz Blues 2-disc set that came out on Receiver a few years ago, all of the between-song interaction between the radio host and the band were cut out. Some bootlegs, notably They Play On, preserve the between-song talk from that show, so that's probably where that track from your disc originated. In fact, there is at least one bootleg that lists the title of that track as "Phyllis"!
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Old 03-26-2006, 02:05 PM
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Hi bretonbanquet - that version of "World In Harmony" with Danny's "Phyllis" reference is from the 9 April 1970 BBC radio show - actually the last "live" recording of the song that I'm aware of. While all the songs from this performance were included on the Show-Biz Blues 2-disc set that came out on Receiver a few years ago, all of the between-song interaction between the radio host and the band were cut out. Some bootlegs, notably They Play On, preserve the between-song talk from that show, so that's probably where that track from your disc originated. In fact, there is at least one bootleg that lists the title of that track as "Phyllis"!
You're right of course - I should have recognised it from Show-Biz Blues. My disc has "Tiger" and "Manalishi" from that concert as well, but none of the other songs. Now I realise it's not a particularly early performance of "World In Harmony", it seems odd that they still hadn't given it a name. They played it at Boston 2 months previously, and I'm assuming that was about the earliest airing.

We know it was recorded in the studio in April '70, and apparently (I don't actually have it) it was played on 27th April at another BBC session - the one from which "Sandy Mary" and "Only You" were taken for the Live At The BBC 2-disc set. I guess when Peter left, they never played it again.

I think it's a shame that we have to obtain these BBC tracks from bootlegs - there must be enough material there to do another Live At The BBC set.
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Hi bretonbanquet - that version of "World In Harmony" with Danny's "Phyllis" reference is from the 9 April 1970 BBC radio show - actually the last "live" recording of the song that I'm aware of. While all the songs from this performance were included on the Show-Biz Blues 2-disc set that came out on Receiver a few years ago, all of the between-song interaction between the radio host and the band were cut out. Some bootlegs, notably They Play On, preserve the between-song talk from that show, so that's probably where that track from your disc originated. In fact, there is at least one bootleg that lists the title of that track as "Phyllis"!
I have this in-between-talk about Phyllis on the bootleg "Greener Pastures". So that could also be the source???
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Old 03-27-2006, 05:13 PM
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I have this in-between-talk about Phyllis on the bootleg "Greener Pastures". So that could also be the source???
It might well be - I saw that disc on eBay only today. I also saw that one has the track listed as "Phyllis" like Sharksfan said Another track I got recently that's also on Greener Pastures is "Whole Lotta Love" which I always assumed was a Led Zeppelin song. It turns out it's a Willie Dixon song that Zep ripped off. Mac's version is fantastic Does anyone know when that performance was recorded?
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"Whole Lotta Love" which I always assumed was a Led Zeppelin song. It turns out it's a Willie Dixon song that Zep ripped off
Ah! Not knowing much about boots, I wasn't sure how to enter this one in the discog. Now I understood the Dixon song in question was actually titled "You Need Love". Can someone confirm that this is the song FM do in this boot (under the WLL title)? Let me know so I correct the discog accordingly, thanks in advance.

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Old 03-27-2006, 05:31 PM
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It might well be - I saw that disc on eBay only today. I also saw that one has the track listed as "Phyllis" like Sharksfan said Another track I got recently that's also on Greener Pastures is "Whole Lotta Love" which I always assumed was a Led Zeppelin song. It turns out it's a Willie Dixon song that Zep ripped off. Mac's version is fantastic Does anyone know when that performance was recorded?
There's another boot called Show-Biz Blues (not the 2-disc official release on Receiver) where it's called "Phyllis" too.

Mac's version of the song that Led Zep re-titled "Whole Lotta Love" is actually titled "You Need Love", and was recorded at the 27 August 1968 BBC session (a year before Zep's version). From what I've read, Muddy Waters wrote the music and Willie Dixon later added the lyrics. Dixon had to sue Zeppelin to regain the writing credit on the song, and he won in court. I'm actually not that crazy about Mac's version of the song, but it sure is a lot more restrained than the Led Zep version!
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Mac's version of the song that Led Zep re-titled "Whole Lotta Love" is actually titled "You Need Love", and was recorded at the 27 August 1968 BBC session (a year before Zep's version). From what I've read, Muddy Waters wrote the music and Willie Dixon later added the lyrics. Dixon had to sue Zeppelin to regain the writing credit on the song, and he won in court.
Dixon's publishers also sued LZ over "Bring It On Home", but much like the George Harrison/He's So Fine debacle the publisher didn't hand any of the money over to Dixon until his accountant audited their books.

Both the BIOH and WLL cases were settled out of court.

The Small Faces also ripped off YNL as "You Need Loving" on their Decca debut album in 1966 and credited to Marriot and Lane. Some reviewers are of the opinion that Plant was inspired by Marriot's vocal delivery.

I not aware that Dixon sued The Small Faces.
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I have this in-between-talk about Phyllis on the bootleg "Greener Pastures". So that could also be the source???
Could be, Wouter - I'd forgotten it was on Greener Pastures too.
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