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Old 04-21-2018, 11:56 PM
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Her line that she can't sign autographs predates those videos by decades .I went to a Tom Petty concert at the San Diego Sports Arena in 1985 a few months before the release of Rock a Little where Stevie was a guest performer and when she was getting on a bus after the show a fan asked her for an autograph and she turned and said "If i give you one I have to do it for everyone"
Really? I had no idea.
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I never questioned your source, this is very believable to me and I was supporting your comments.....
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:59 PM
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you know i would never say that to you.

your posts are extremely constructive.
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I'm just calling it as I see it.
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Old 04-22-2018, 12:03 AM
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I SO agree with this! While I get that people's writing style changes over time I am totally with you about how that whole mysterious thing she had going on was one of my favorite things about her songs.
Sara is the perfect example of that. Who even knows what on earth she is talking about/trying to say in that song but the lyrics are BEAUTIFUL and the song is just gorgeous.
Agreed. But also GDW and Angel are perfect examples of that.
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I stumbled upon this recently (maybe someone here linked it?) and it makes me sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnh4qRCLwLc

While I think that a lot of interactions are staged, there are real moments in between and this is one of them. I probably will be buying a ticket if they come to Germany, but it won't be the same.
Rumours 5 are magic. The rest is good music, sure, but magic? No.

Also: THIS - http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...4&postcount=48
I don't think there is a comeback from the latest shenanigans. So much history ending on such a bad note. I just hope it was not a 'spur in the moment' thing.

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I stumbled upon this recently (maybe someone here linked it?) and it makes me sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnh4qRCLwLc

While I think that a lot of interactions are staged, there are real moments in between and this is one of them. I probably will be buying a ticket if they come to Germany, but it won't be the same.
Rumours 5 are magic. The rest is good music, sure, but magic? No.

Also: THIS - http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...4&postcount=48
I don't think there is a comeback from the latest shenanigans. So much history ending on such a bad note. I just hope it was not a 'spur in the moment' thing.
That breaks my heart, too.
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I've just gone on Lindsey's website- there's a Seeds we sow overview video that I don't remember being on there recently. Maybe it was and I missed it. In the light of recent events his comments on it take on a greater resonance.

The song choices on the video seem very apt: Seeds we sow, End of Time and Illumination.
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I've just gone on Lindsey's website- there's a Seeds we sow overview video that I don't remember being on there recently. Maybe it was and I missed it. In the light of recent events his comments on it take on a greater resonance.

The song choices on the video seem very apt: Seeds we sow, End of Time and Illumination.
kinda poignant, isn't it.

and no, these videos were there since before Seeds came out. maintenance and updating of that site is dismal. as is any social media connected to LB, unfortunately.
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It’s embarrassing that at this age the band members still act like children and can’t get along. They are not growing old gracefully.
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It took a long time to return to this particular formation, but it was lost again when Christine left in 1997. And it seemed to just be coming together again when she returned. It's sad that the five fell apart again.
The thing with this band is, sure, they are professional musicians who will still put on a technically good show. They will play a bunch of songs that the audience knows and will most likely make a fortune. But there is something specific about this fivesome that just gels and when together, the game is upped several levels. In 1997, they were a LOT better than the 1987-90 band (and sorry but I just refuse to even talk about the county fair circuit in the mid-90's), and something was just not right from 2003-2013. Live and on Say You Will, Christine's absence was glaring and it just wasn't the same. In 2014, it all came back. There was a magic in the performances that had been missing for the prior decade. It's the same with Buckingham McVie. I actually enjoy the album (as I did Say You Will), but it just wasn't the same without the three voices on it. It is an absolute shame that the likely final chapter of this band is going to be written in this way. And that's not a knock on Mike Campbell or Neil Finn. They're there to replicate what was already done and they will do it professionally, but whatever it is that comes together with the Rumours 5 will not be replicated.
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A couple of weeks after it was all confirmed I still don't know what to think, given that we don't know the full circumstances yet.

Much as the Mac's live shows had become more than a little ritualistic, even with Christine's return, I always enjoyed them and got a kick out of the fact that casual fans came out of the gig feeling the same.

When you've had a realistic claim to being the world's biggest act at one point, even though that was 40 years ago, a line-up change at this stage in the game is not going to work in the same way that the growth and setbacks pre 1975 eventually did. Neil and Mike are in a class or two above Billy and Rick, however and the uninformed fans plus Stevie diehards may still make the band a worthwhile live proposition at this point, although you have to worry about Christine's continued ability to deliver.

I admit I am intrigued by the possibility of studio recordings, particularly involving Neil Finn. Maybe Christine's desire to do a blues album could somehow morph into part of an album with the FM moniker in it. I wouldn't put the mortgage on that happening. What an irony it would be were a new FM album to emerge.

Logic somehow dictates that Fleetwood Mac #14 has been put together to fulfil a contractual obligation to tour and that may well be it. Christine surely didn't come out of retirement for this and John has indicated that by 2020 he will be done.

Given Lindsey's solo and BuckVie creativity over the last few years I'm just annoyed that a wider audience will miss out on his full potential in the setting of Fleetwood Mac. I'm sure he's difficult to work with and that's partly how we've got to this point. So many lost opportunities. It's just too sad.
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The notion of survival doesn't mean all that much to me. The planet is filled with bands that have survived, but who wants to listen to them? I drive down the 215 and see a billboard for yet another Journey concert at one of the north county casinos, and I think "Good Lord." Journey survives — but what's the point? Another year playing casinos and fairs milking the old hits made famous by the original singer? It really is just a paycheck at that point. If Fleetwood Mac wants to "survive" and tour with strange new members, milking old hits made famous by the departed, it is just a paycheck. No interest to me. Those who find it interesting are in luck, certainly — but I wonder whether they're kidding themselves.
When this first hit, Journey was the first thing I kept thinking of. I mean, it's not AS bad considering Steve Perry's voice essentially became Journey in the public's mind whereas Fleetwood Mac has three vocalists who the public general associates with the band. BUT, it's the same concept. We're going to hire people to fill in for the guy who you associate with these songs. In the Eagles case, it's bad enough, but Glen died (and while I think Don Felder got the shaft, he wasn't to the Eagles what Lindsey was to Fleetwood Mac...music to Hotel California and all). Back to Journey, I cringe as hard as possible when I see what they're out doing today. It's awful. It sounds like karaoke. I've turned down several opportunities to see them despite the fact that I lose my voice trying to hit every note on Don't Stop Believing at every wedding I have attended for the last 15 years. Watching two guys who have no association with the Fleetwood Mac book of work try to replicate the music that Lindsey wrote, produced, arranged...while Lindsey sits down the road fully capable of being there...meh, not interested.
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Given Lindsey's solo and BuckVie creativity over the last few years I'm just annoyed that a wider audience will miss out on his full potential in the setting of Fleetwood Mac. I'm sure he's difficult to work with and that's partly how we've got to this point. So many lost opportunities. It's just too sad.
don't you find it interesting though, that everyone - everyone! - including Christine, Mick and John - praise the experience of working with him. Trent Reznor. Little Big Town. those electronica guys. all sides of the spectrum.

the only time the "difficult to work with" arises is when you have SN in the same room. toxic exes. Christine said something like that in interviews for BuckVie - that she has always find it incredibly easy to work with him, and it's just gotten easier now, and that she can only ascribe these difficulties to somehow always arise from SN / LB relationship.
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don't you find it interesting though, that everyone - including Christine, Mick and John - praise the experience of working with him. Trent Reznor. Little Big Town. those electronica guys. all sides of the spectrum.

the only time the "difficult to work with" arises it is when you have SN in the same room. toxic exes. Christine said something like that in interviews for BuckVie - that she has always find it incredibly easy to work with him, and it's just gotten easier now, and that she can only ascribe these difficulties to somehow always arise from SN / LB relationship.
Yes, basically any inference that Lindsey has been difficult to work with has usually come from Stevie. Throw in Tom Petty and Mike Campbell onto that list too as being able to work with him.

Maybe she's a giant pain in the ass to work with and after 10/20/30/40/50+ years, he just doesn't give af about it and says what he thinks.

Likely, they're both annoying and while Lindsey seems to be able to want to work with her, she just has no interest in even trying. Ugh...I find this whole thing to be increasingly irritating daily.
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Yes, basically any inference that Lindsey has been difficult to work with has usually come from Stevie. Throw in Tom Petty and Mike Campbell onto that list too as being able to work with him.

Maybe she's a giant pain in the ass to work with and after 10/20/30/40/50+ years, he just doesn't give af about it and says what he thinks.

Likely, they're both annoying and while Lindsey seems to be able to want to work with her, she just has no interest in even trying. Ugh...I find this whole thing to be increasingly irritating daily.
yeah i think 2 of them together are just toxic to each other. she has even said in interviews how they know how to keep pushing each others' buttons till one of them explodes. he seemed like he wanted to make peace and considered creating together as a way to it. she seems to thrive on milking their drama. or maybe it's just their private lives which provides him peace and warmth, and maybe she was not able to find that kind of peace.
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