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[Steviegirl]

The hair is dreadful; the dress is horrible, the spins are geriatric. Smh. She looks embarrassed, and I understand why. These are Billy Joel crowds. When she OPENED for Rod Stewart in 2012, I sympathetically told the people sitting beside me (who were just arriving) that she had just finished her set, and they looked at me like I was crazy. They had come to see Rod Stewart and really couldn't have cared less about SN. Her show came across like a series of funeral dirges when contrasted with RS. ...and that was over ten years ago.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by sleepless child

I don't get it. The hair and make up look unkempt. I don't know if she has a new lipstick color on or she had her lips done. The outfit is so tired now. The tennis shoes are just awful. There has to be something more flattering she can wear. Check out Vionics. They make a good fashionable supportive shoe. And she really looks like she is not even enjoying it. The voice is pretty much shot now. The line endings are a bit wobbly sounding. Every one ages differently. And 75 isn't young. I really think her touring days are numbered. This should be it. Focus on other things in the future. You can't tour forever. If that is all you have in life then, that's pretty sad.

She decided 40+ years ago that she was in the Army, and wasn't allowed to have a real life. It's all on her.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Edit: Here's an excellent version of Gypsy with high notes and an impossible twirl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJFO3MBroo8

Maybe she should accept using auto tune.

I recall one of her well-known interviews back around the Tusk days where she talked about wanting to be known as a songwriter and said something about not doing this (performing onstage) when she's 60. Then she laughed and said, "I probably will" but then added "I may not be dancing around QUITE as exuberantly when I'm 60, but I *will* be writing then"

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Maybe she should accept using auto tune.

I recall one of her well-known interviews back around the Tusk days where she talked about wanting to be known as a songwriter and said something about not doing this (performing onstage) when she's 60. Then she laughed and said, "I probably will" but then added "I may not be dancing around QUITE as exuberantly when I'm 60, but I *will* be writing then"

There is some vocal alteration this tour you can make out in videos. Some have said reverb. The Sara from Sofi Stadium sounded auto tuned to me because her vocal was perfect like a studio recording. In this video: https://www.facebook.com/10005024099...5422024037296/ you can hear her voice after she’s dropped her head down

Also interesting is she only came out during Billy’s set on the first night.

[jmn3]

I’ve watched clips here and there and she looks bored. Her set is boring, a lot of the songs just sound boring, the audience looks boring, it’s all a bunch of meh. I don’t think she sounds particularly worse than she has in recent tours, but she hasn’t sounded good in years now. I won’t rag on her for aging - if we’re lucky we’ll either all age or die trying. But she doesn’t look like she is having a good time and her choices in clothing, hair, songs, keys..it’s just all a mess.

And whoever thought it was a good idea for her and Waddy to share a hair person should be immediately fired.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Also interesting is she only came out during Billy’s set on the first night.

She must make a ton of cash from doing these tours. I don’t know what else is the reason. I thought after the Rod Stewart debacle where she looked miserable, she’d only do something where she’s the headliner with someone else opening before her like The Pretender’s.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by Steviegirl

The hair is dreadful; the dress is horrible, the spins are geriatric. Smh. She looks embarrassed, and I understand why. These are Billy Joel crowds. When she OPENED for Rod Stewart in 2012, I sympathetically told the people sitting beside me (who were just arriving) that she had just finished her set, and they looked at me like I was crazy. They had come to see Rod Stewart and really couldn't have cared less about SN. Her show came across like a series of funeral dirges when contrasted with RS. ...and that was over ten years ago.

Stevie and Rod trying to duet Young Turks was the stuff of nightmares. I understand she probably likes the song but it doesn’t lend itself to whatever the hell they were trying to do with it by sharing vocals.

[sue]

[QUOTE=jmn3;1286544]She must make a ton of cash from doing these tours. I don’t know what else is the reason. I thought after the Rod Stewart debacle where she looked miserable, she’d only do something where she’s the headliner with someone else opening before her like The Pretender’s.[/QUOTE


I don’t get why she needs to make anymore money she is so rich.
She has no kids no family etc to support.
So, why if she is bored (and yes she looks it) does she do it.

Do something more artistic, smaller venue acoustic concerts.
Where she could use a quieter voice and actually sing.
She has such a large repertoire she could do marvellous concerts….
Just do something bloomin different…

[bombaysaffires]

[QUOTE=sue;1286547]

Originally Posted by jmn3

She must make a ton of cash from doing these tours. I don’t know what else is the reason. I thought after the Rod Stewart debacle where she looked miserable, she’d only do something where she’s the headliner with someone else opening before her like The Pretender’s.[/QUOTE


I don’t get why she needs to make anymore money she is so rich.
She has no kids no family etc to support.
So, why if she is bored (and yes she looks it) does she do it.

Do something more artistic, smaller venue acoustic concerts.
Where she could use a quieter voice and actually sing.
She has such a large repertoire she could do marvellous concerts….
Just do something bloomin different…

I agree with your premise about smaller venues etc

But I do think she is the main support for a TON of other people. You know she supports her brother, his (ex)wife and their kid... who now has a kid of her own, her mom (while she was still alive). She is the employer of so many people... not the least of whom is Karen, but also I'm sure she has other staff to run her personal/home life managed by Karen (housekeeper, groundskeeper/property maintenance, some sort of small office staff, etc). She has manager, publicist, accountants, lawyers (you don't think Stevie is Oprah and writes every check do you?) who are working on her behalf and must get paid regardless of whether she's on tour or not.

She's probably better now about having tons of pals on her payroll because most of them seem to have matured, gotten married/had kids etc... but...For years she was the sole source of income for Sharon, Lori, Christopher, Robin, Rebecca, Glen, and whoever all else, on top of her brother, his family, etc. She paid I'm sure for any education of her niece, for Matthew, and who knows how many of the gazillion god daughters she has. Now, she's the one who created this situation of having lots of dependents for sure, but I'm just pointing out that she does have dependents even if she didn't give birth to them.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Stevie and Rod trying to duet Young Turks was the stuff of nightmares. I understand she probably likes the song but it doesn’t lend itself to whatever the hell they were trying to do with it by sharing vocals.

Yes it was so bad. I actually felt sorry for Stevie. I could sense Rod's arrogance and it was sad how they had to find clever ways for them to appear on stage together. Correction: On Rod's stage. She was an opening act and came out a few nights to sing with Rod. They did Leather and Lace a few times and Rod looked like he never even practiced with Stevie. His singing was reduced to reading every word off the monitor.
Its all about $$$$$ money. The next few years Stevie was packing arenas. She did not need to do that just like she does not need to open for Billy Joel. She's on stage during the daylight with people fumbling around trying to find their seats. She does not need to sell out for such gigs.
But then again I say all the time. These concerts are not for us hardcore fans. They are for the bored masses who want to attend concerts in the summer.

[snroxman]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Yes it was so bad. I actually felt sorry for Stevie. I could sense Rod's arrogance and it was sad how they had to find clever ways for them to appear on stage together. Correction: On Rod's stage. She was an opening act and came out a few nights to sing with Rod. They did Leather and Lace a few times and Rod looked like he never even practiced with Stevie. His singing was reduced to reading every word off the monitor.
Its all about $$$$$ money. The next few years Stevie was packing arenas. She did not need to do that just like she does not need to open for Billy Joel. She's on stage during the daylight with people fumbling around trying to find their seats. She does not need to sell out for such gigs.
But then again I say all the time. These concerts are not for us hardcore fans. They are for the bored masses who want to attend concerts in the summer.

I wish she'd cut herself some slack. Everyone gets older and adjusts one way or another. A smaller venue - such as a theater - would be fantastic. And, she might enjoy herself a bit more.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by snroxman

I wish she'd cut herself some slack. Everyone gets older and adjusts one way or another. A smaller venue - such as a theater - would be fantastic. And, she might enjoy herself a bit more.

She could charge an absolute fortune and play in theaters which she would 100% sell out and put a show on that’s more fitting for a 75 year old who doesn’t have the mobility or voice to run around a stadium stage anymore. I know it’d be less money but I really think going that route and creating something special would be much more interesting than another blah greatest hits tour with an even more blah version of Rhiannon.

A Storytellers like tour would suit her very well now - she just needs a pitch clock to control the length of the stories.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

There is some vocal alteration this tour you can make out in videos. Some have said reverb. The Sara from Sofi Stadium sounded auto tuned to me because her vocal was perfect like a studio recording. In this video: https://www.facebook.com/10005024099...5422024037296/ you can hear her voice after she’s dropped her head down

Also interesting is she only came out during Billy’s set on the first night.

it does sound like reverb, with one of her singers taking the high notes at the very end.

She really isn't even moving around much at all... not just her lower body, but the arm movements and all that she does to camouflage the fact that she's not moving around the actual stage very much anymore are quite diminished. She just shouldn't be doing stadiums. I mean, Elton and Billy sit at the piano for whole portions of their shows; but she has to be standing right up front, center stage the whole time. She can't do it any more.

[sue]

[QUOTE=bombaysaffires;1286552]

Originally Posted by sue

I agree with your premise about smaller venues etc

But I do think she is the main support for a TON of other people. You know she supports her brother, his (ex)wife and their kid... who now has a kid of her own, her mom (while she was still alive). She is the employer of so many people... not the least of whom is Karen, but also I'm sure she has other staff to run her personal/home life managed by Karen (housekeeper, groundskeeper/property maintenance, some sort of small office staff, etc). She has manager, publicist, accountants, lawyers (you don't think Stevie is Oprah and writes every check do you?) who are working on her behalf and must get paid regardless of whether she's on tour or not.

She's probably better now about having tons of pals on her payroll because most of them seem to have matured, gotten married/had kids etc... but...For years she was the sole source of income for Sharon, Lori, Christopher, Robin, Rebecca, Glen, and whoever all else, on top of her brother, his family, etc. She paid I'm sure for any education of her niece, for Matthew, and who knows how many of the gazillion god daughters she has. Now, she's the one who created this situation of having lots of dependents for sure, but I'm just pointing out that she does have dependents even if she didn't give birth to them.

[sue]

[QUOTE=bombaysaffires;1286552]

Originally Posted by sue

I agree with your premise about smaller venues etc

But I do think she is the main support for a TON of other people. You know she supports her brother, his (ex)wife and their kid... who now has a kid of her own, her mom (while she was still alive). She is the employer of so many people... not the least of whom is Karen, but also I'm sure she has other staff to run her personal/home life managed by Karen (housekeeper, groundskeeper/property maintenance, some sort of small office staff, etc). She has manager, publicist, accountants, lawyers (you don't think Stevie is Oprah and writes every check do you?) who are working on her behalf and must get paid regardless of whether she's on tour or not.

She's probably better now about having tons of pals on her payroll because most of them seem to have matured, gotten married/had kids etc... but...For years she was the sole source of income for Sharon, Lori, Christopher, Robin, Rebecca, Glen, and whoever all else, on top of her brother, his family, etc. She paid I'm sure for any education of her niece, for Matthew, and who knows how many of the gazillion god daughters she has. Now, she's the one who created this situation of having lots of dependents for sure, but I'm just pointing out that she does have dependents even if she didn't give birth to them.

OMG…she should retire now…she’s working flat out ..well flat out for someone her age, to employ all of these people !!
So she is working to pay people.

There is no sense in that.
after she has paid everyone she comes home with a million or so…?