Mick Fleetwood Says New Album Without Stevie Nicks Will Win Awards

TrueFaith77 · #1 03-23-2017, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I won't hold my breath for any awards. I don't care about sales either. But I do hope it gets good critical reviews. That's what I will consider important.

Michele

This puzzled me at first because I think music critics are almost as bad as film critics, but it did remind me how all the reviews for SYW commented on how it just isn't Mac without Christine. (Probably similar to Behind the Mask and The Time). Sooooooo, I the challenge is if critics will say: "Nicks' presence is missed." And, frankly, how can it not be? But it would be too bad if that's the critical line on this release. Christine, after all, was a SIGNIFYING absence on SYW. Among other wonders that album provides.

FuzzyPlum · #2 03-23-2017, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

This puzzled me at first because I think music critics are almost as bad as film critics, but it did remind me how all the reviews for SYW commented on how it just isn't Mac without Christine. (Probably similar to Behind the Mask and The Time). Sooooooo, I the challenge is if critics will say: "Nicks' presence is missed." And, frankly, how can it not be? But it would be too bad if that's the critical line on this release. Christine, after all, was a SIGNIFYING absence on SYW. Among other wonders that album provides.

I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album. You wouldn't claim 'Stevie is missed' when referring to a Lindsey or Christine solo album. A person cant be missed if its a new entity. As for Say You Will- Lindsey and Stevie really were polar opposites in many ways- musically, they've moved away from each other so much since Buckingham Nicks. Christine really was missed as the bridge in-between them. Chris and Lindsey are more of a natural fit together.
Of course Stevie will be missed- we all would prefer a full Fleetwood Mac album. However, I feel sure that wont be the be all and end all as far as the critics are concerned. I think all the evidence we have of them working together in the past really bodes well for something that could be special and garner real critical acclaim.

bombaysaffires · #3 03-23-2017, 03:49 PM

anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......

elle · #4 03-23-2017, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......

Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?

bombaysaffires · #5 03-23-2017, 04:17 PM

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Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?

yeah, maybe it's just me but I don't think of Cher as a rocker. I like her; but I t think of her as a Vegas act for whatever reason, probably because she was doing big Vegas shows decades before any real rockers.

Tina stopped touring quite a while ago.

Dolly for sure.

Joan is selling out arenas?? It must be a double or triple bill

michelej1 · #6 03-23-2017, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

yeah, maybe it's just me but I don't think of Cher as a rocker. I like her; but I t think of her as a Vegas act for whatever reason, probably because she was doing big Vegas shows decades before any real rockers.

Yes, Sonny and Cher started doing Vegas shows even before they got their tv show. And Cher has never stopped doing them since, as a solo.

Ha ha, but I will classify her punkish version of Sonny's Bang Bang as a rock song.

And let me take a moment and praise Needles and Pins, while I'm here. I am proud of my guy, even though if he'd have lived, given the climate these days, I'd probably wish he would ski into a tree.

Michele

sue · #7 03-23-2017, 06:32 PM

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Yes, Sonny and Cher started doing Vegas shows even before they got their tv show. And Cher has never stopped doing them since, as a solo.

Ha ha, but I will classify her punkish version of Sonny's Bang Bang as a rock song.

And let me take a moment and praise Needles and Pins, while I'm here. I am proud of my guy, even though if he'd have lived, given the climate these days, I'd probably wish he would ski into a tree.

Michele

Needles and Pins is one of my favourite golden oldies especially by The Searchers.
For years I thought Jackie de Shannon wrote it and was way surprised when I found out Sonny Bono wrote it.....cool song from way back.

MikeVielhaber · #8 03-24-2017, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by elle

Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?

Joan Jett is touring this summer opening for Boston who are mostly a revolving door of members alongside Tom Scholz.

Plus, she's 10 years younger than Stevie.

**SisterNightroad** · #9 03-23-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The only one I can think of on top of my head is maybe Patti Smith?

**jbrownsjr** · #10 03-23-2017, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......

Everything you do has been done!!! ............and it WON'T last forever........

TrueFaith77 · #11 03-23-2017, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album. You wouldn't claim 'Stevie is missed' when referring to a Lindsey or Christine solo album.

I would. I always feel that way when I hear any of their solo albums: "If only..." and, of course, even solo I feel they are singing to each other--across albums rather than across or within songs.

shackin'up · #12 03-24-2017, 09:49 AM

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I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album.

Uh....because it is a Fleetwood Mac Album. But not named so because she''s not there. No other reason.

HomerMcvie · #13 03-24-2017, 10:23 AM

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Uh....because it is a Fleetwood Mac Album. But not named so because she''s not there. No other reason.

Yep. What he said. No other reason. It's absolute B.S.

**jbrownsjr** · #14 03-24-2017, 10:30 AM

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Yep. What he said. No other reason. It's absolute B.S.

I love the title and the project.

As you know, sometimes art morphs into something that you didn't expect, but yet, it was right in front of your face.

I trust that this is what happened and the Buckingham/McVie project is going to be a charming and a wonderful adventure.

Like they said, they didn't say, "Stevie you're not welcome." But, really Stevie, you're not welcome.. lol

vivfox · #15 03-25-2017, 09:51 AM

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Like they said, they didn't say, "Stevie you're not welcome." But, really Stevie, you're not welcome.. lol

Probably never going to happen but I'd get a real kick out of watching everyone's head spin if SN showed up onstage to sing backup at one of the upcoming BM shows.

And I just got a minor laugh myself typing out the letters, BM.