Mick Fleetwood on Stevie Nicks' solo career and future of Fleetwood Mac

[svnwndrs]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Oh my God... You're right!!!! just by comparison. .

To take you a step further.. Her solo career does the same thing.

Well I can say "everybody is different" and I honestly don't listen to much of anything Stevie did before the Tusk era. I was born in 1986 and I was brought up on 80's and 90's music and that would put everything from Mirage to the TISL era in that category. Wether we as fans like it or not, Stevie is and always has been influenced by current music and her output from these eras shows that. So your second category hits home with me more than your first, and a lot of that may have to do with the fact that a lot of those 1975-1982 songs are just overplayed and overrated, but for fans my age and younger, we might just find the second era of 1987 and on more fascinating and intriguing because they reflect their time period. Klonopin or no klonopin, and also, maybe I'm over analyzing this

And I have to add, She was already around 40 years old in the late 80's and back then that seemed ancient. Today, though, it doesn't seem that way. She had a lot of "Co–writes" during this period, but it was probably because of burn out and the klonopin, and age. And she lacked inspiration during this time. Drugs have a lot to do with the "quality" of the songs throughout a music career with longevity, and it will show. After 1986, cocaine was no longer in the picture, and all of a sudden, tranquilizers were. But I can't deny the fact, that I like A LOT of her material from 1986-87 onward. But again, like I said, it's probably because it's not over played and overrated like her stuff from 1975-83. Just my 2 cents.

[TheWildHeart67]

She is always blaming her failures on Lindsey and yet, he made her a star

Regarding a previous comment, I don't recall Stevie ever blaming any failures she has had because of Lindsay Buckingham???

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67

Regarding a previous comment, I don't recall Stevie ever blaming any failures she has had because of Lindsay Buckingham???

Huh! Do you have selective memory? Have you ignored the last 30 years? That is all she does.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Huh! Do you have selective memory? Have you ignored the last 30 years? That is all she does.

Steve's never had any failures, so how could she blame Lindsey?

[sleepless child]

Doesn't a Fleetwood Mac album outsell Stevie Nicks solo records anyway? So her excuse doesn't hold for me.

[TheWildHeart67]

"Tusk" sold 2 million in 1979 and produced 2 top ten singles. "Bella Donna" sold 5 million since 1981 and produced 2 top ten singles, and one top 15. "Mirage" sold 2 million​ in 1982 and produced 1 top ten and one top 20 single. "The Wild Heart" sold 2 million since 1983, produced a top ten single and one top 15. "Rock a little" sold a million in 1985 and produced one top ten single and one top 20. "Tango in the night sold 3 million since 1987 and produced 2 top ten singles and 2 more top 20 hits. " The other side of the mirror" sold one million since 1989 and one top 20 hit. "Behind the Mask" sold 500,000 in 1990 and no top 30 hits. " Street Angel" peaked at #45 in 1994 and sold poorly but later certified gold. " The Dance" sold about 5 million since 1997. "Trouble in Shangri la" sold about 650,000 since 2001 and "Say you will" about 800,000 since 2003. All these figures are approximant and US sales, not worldwide totals. I'm only including albums released just before her solo career launched and afterwards.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67

Regarding a previous comment, I don't recall Stevie ever blaming any failures she has had because of Lindsay Buckingham???

She really hasn't had much to say in 20 years, but she used to blame Lindsey all of the time. Like when she said she had some great songs and about 50 mediocre ones that could have been great, if Lindsey hadn't been mad at her.

Michele

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by michelej1

She really hasn't had much to say in 20 years, but she used to blame Lindsey all of the time. Like when she said she had some great songs and about 50 mediocre ones that could have been great, if Lindsey hadn't been mad at her.

Michele

Ok, so this comment makes me want to get defensive, but I won't let's look at this post objectively, instead. You say Stevie hasn't had much to say in 20 years, but she used to blame Lindsey all the time. I'm sure in the hundreds of interviews she's given in the last 20 years, she made a comment about not being pleased with some of Lindsey's production of her songs. Just like I'm sure in the many interviews Lindsey has given in the past 20 years, he's made a comment about making Stevie's songs better. That's not blaming her failures on Lindsey.

She just said in a recent interview that she was disappointed Lindsey took her background vocals off some of the songs on Tango, but she understood why (because they weren't very good or words to that effect). Sounded to me like she was being realistic and diplomatic. She certainly wasn't blaming him.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bwboy

She just said in a recent interview that she was disappointed Lindsey took her background vocals off some of the songs on Tango, but she understood why (because they weren't very good or words to that effect). Sounded to me like she was being realistic and diplomatic. She certainly wasn't blaming him.

I wasn't talking about that recent interview. In fact, my post made it clear that I was talking about interviews she gave beyond the last 20 years. Someone said they don't remember many interviews where Stevie blamed Lindsey and I said there are many interviews in which she did, but they are the older interviews.

And I wasn't talking about interviews Lindsey gave about Stevie. I was responding to a comment in a post made about Stevie's interviews, not his.

And I don't care if you feel defensive or not. I feel that if you think the board is too harsh on Stevie, there are many boards that are not where you would feel more comfortable. As soon as I get my tax refund, I will be starting a new bulletin board myself, because I don't like the bulletin boards that are out there about my favorite actor. He's been around a long time and I will be creating a forum 15 years too late, but I'm going to do it anyway, because I'm frustrated with the attitudes on other forums and I left this board in 2003, because I didn't like its tone. No board is for everyone.

Michele

[bwboy]

Not too harsh, just negative for no reason. But then I'm guilty of keeping the negativity going, too. Oh, why not, right?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Not too harsh, just negative for no reason. But then I'm guilty of keeping the negativity going, too. Oh, why not, right?

One doesn't need a reason to be negative. This isn't the Happy Happy Joy Joy forum.

The kind of comments that Stevie would routinely make about Lindsey are like the one in the interview Courtney Love did with her, to which I was referring.

No, no. I would sit down and play him "Gold Dust Woman" on the guitar, my simple little version, and two days later it would be recorded, and it would be recorded really well. He could take my songs and do what I would do if I had his musical talent. When he wasn’t angry with me, that is. That’s why there’s seven or eight great songs, and there’s 50 more where he wasn’t happy with me and didn’t help me.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I wasn't talking about that recent interview. In fact, my post made it clear that I was talking about interviews she gave beyond the last 20 years. Someone said they don't remember many interviews where Stevie blamed Lindsey and I said there are many interviews in which she did, but they are the older interviews.

And I wasn't talking about interviews Lindsey gave about Stevie. I was responding to a comment in a post made about Stevie's interviews, not his.

And I don't care if you feel defensive or not. I feel that if you think the board is too harsh on Stevie, there are many boards that are not where you would feel more comfortable. As soon as I get my tax refund, I will be starting a new bulletin board myself, because I don't like the bulletin boards that are out there about my favorite actor. He's been around a long time and I will be creating a forum 15 years too late, but I'm going to do it anyway, because I'm frustrated with the attitudes on other forums and I left this board in 2003, because I didn't like its tone. No board is for everyone.

Michele

We're all guilty of parting company in this ledge for a while. It just seems to happen. But it's that umbilical cord that can't be broken. It just pulls you back...

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

We're all guilty of parting company in this ledge for a while. It just seems to happen. But it's that umbilical cord that can't be broken. It just pulls you back...

just like the band and it's members.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by svnwndrs

But I can't deny the fact, that I like A LOT of her material from 1986-87 onward. But again, like I said, it's probably because it's not over played and overrated like her stuff from 1975-83. Just my 2 cents.

75-83 is overrated, and you prefer the later stuff?


Well, that makes 3 of you in the world.