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Which is better, the Dance or the album cuts?
Out of the classic songs on the dance which is actually much better live?
I would say The Chain, Everywhere, Rhiannon, I'm So Afraid, Say You Love Me, You Make Loving Fun, Go Your Own Way, and Don't Stop are all much better live.
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Why compare them???? (although you certainly have the right to a preference.) It's like comparing apples to oranges. The studio versions were carefully crafted in a controlled environment. Live performances -- especially of songs that were recorded 20 years ago -- are another entity entirely. It's not a question of which ones "are better." That is such a personal, subjective choice.
The one thing I've noticed with the latter day version of Fleetwood Mac...they've made a shift in recent years (with the addition of a large support band) to sound more like their recorded versions. When it was just the five of them (four intruments and three vocals), there was no way for them to replicate all of those studio elements. As such, their live versions were considerably different; much more sparse and raw, with a harder rock and roll edge. I'm still not sure which approach I prefer. I guess I just accept it as a natural evolution of the band. I think if I was in my fifties doing what they're doing, I would want some support too! I like the studio versions for what they are. I enjoy their live versions for what they are. It's neither here nor there.
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I DEFINITELY prefer "I'm So Afraid" Dance version (or ANY live version for that matter) over the almost timid by comparison studio version.
Others that are much more powerful and affecting live than in the studio: Silver Springs, Landslide, Go Insane (I know it's not on the CD, but it IS on the video). [Edited to add: Big Love - how could I forget that?!] GYOW, The Chain, and Say You Love Me are tied with the studio versions, I think. For the rest, the studio versions are better (except for Rhiannon, regarding which NEITHER is the best. One must look to the Live 1980 album for that one). Overall - this band ROCKS LIVE. Last edited by sodascouts; 10-04-2003 at 07:13 PM.. |
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My picks
The Chain--I prefer the Dance version...lots of emotion and the guitar work is 100% perfection
Dreams---Rumours version Everywhere--The Dance Gold Dust Woman---The Dance version because of the scream I'm So Afraid--hands down, the Dance version Temporary One--uh, thats a no-brainer Bleed to Love Her--Say You Will version (because of the ending) Gypsy--The Chain box set extended cut Big Love--The Dance (duh!) Go Insane--The Dance Landslide--The Dance Say You Love Me--White album version You Make Loving Fun--Rumours My Little Demon--uh... Silver Springs---its tough...but...The Dance Over My Head--The Dance Rhiannon--white album Sweet Girl--the Dance? =P Go Your Own Way--a tie (because the live solo is the SH*T!) Tusk--Tusk Don't stop--Rumours Songbird--Rumours
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Just about everything on the dance is perfection. The Standouts are Silver Springs, Everywhere, Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman, Big Love, Landslide,Go Your Own Way and The Chain. Dreams aint bad either Don't stop and Go Insane are also awesome.
Who am I kidding all the tracks are excellent |
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I prefer the album versions to just about any version on The Dance.
One of the only songs that really offered anything different or better than the studio version was "Don't Stop" which is absolutely rediculous with the full marching band. And they accused the prog-rock bands of being excessive? Please. The guitar arrangement of Big Love is the only other one that really offerered a fresh presentation of something. Lindsey's guitar work on that one just rocks. I can't believe he buried that beautiful guitar part so badly on the studio version. I prefer the studio version without Lindsey's yelping but it was still a cool new way to hear the song. Props for "Say You Love Me" too. Yee-haw! The rest of them didn't improve upon the studio versions at all. "Over My Head" which is already one of Christine's most boring songs comes across as even more boring live. I prefer "The Chain" in it's original key on the album version, where Lindsey doesn't annoyingly hog vocal space. "Tusk" is also much better on the studio version when Lindsey isn't incessantly yelping at the end. "You Make Lovin' Fun" is more easy-listening semi-funk than cool boogie without the clavinet part. The Dance is OK if you have a DVD so you can watch it too but I think it would be fairly worthless in the CD format. I do really enjoy watching parts of it sometimes but I'll put in one of their CD's before I watch it. It's my least favorite recording of theirs I have. |
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I like the Dance versions of "Rhiannon," "Silver Springs," and "Landslide" better than the studio versions. The studio "Rhiannon" has never done much for me. The Live album version blows the Dance version out of the water, though.
I prefer the Dance versions of "Big Love" and "Say You Love Me," as well. As for the rest, they don't really differ much from the studio versions. And I have to disagree about "Over My Head." It's one of my favorite Christine McVie songs, and I like the version on the Dance video. The one I like most, though, is the version on The Very Best Of, where the guitar is more dominant. |
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Songs that are better on The Dance...
The Chain - Much more powerfull Everywhere I'm So Afraid Big Love Go Insane
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The Chain- I prefer it from the Mirage video... Love Lindsey's demonic screams
Dreams- Rumours Everywhere- The Dance. I think it showcases Chris' voice a lot more. Gold Dust Woman- Tie. Actually, I love it on this tour. I'm So Afraid- ANY live version. I thinik he sounds like a girl on the album version, lol. Bleed to Love Her- The Dance Gypsy- The Mirage video Big Love- A tie, for I love the cheesy 80's version too. Go Insane- The Dance Landslide- The Dance Say You Love Me- A tie between the original, the live album version, and The Dance version. You Make Lovin' Fun- Original, because the live versions are missing the harmonies Silver Springs- This tour Over My Head- Live album version Rhiannon- Live album version Go Your Own Way- Any and all versions. Da da. Tusk- The Dance, the Tusk documentary, and the Mirage video. Don't Stop- The Dance Songbird- ANY version. As long as there are no credits and pictures of other band members looking really ridiculous *cough*the Tusk documentary and the Tango video*cough* playing when it's supposed to be just Chris.
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Oh, ok. You got me in too.
"The Chain": Can't choose here. Lindsey showcases his improved fingerpicking on this one and his screaming at the end brings chills to one's back, but the original has those now impossible-to-reproduce Buckingham Nicks '70s harmonies. "Dreams": The original is far more magical, while on stage these days it's just a run-through. But it's still fun to listen how Stevie changes the atmosphere of the studio recording with her voice. "Everywhere": It's my least favourite Rumours line-up song, but I like it on the Dance because the '80s synth-backing is missing. “Gold Dust Woman”: The original easily. What once was a harrowing performance from the grave is now a fake, theatrical show-off. The scream comes off calculated and I’ve always laughed at her ridiculous antics in the video. But then again, it’s better that she’s alive singing the other songs like she means it. They should drop this one though. “I’m So Afraid”: I love every version of this one, but since the solo is very calculated here, then anything before the Out Of The Cradle tour will do. “Bleed To Love Her”: The solo at the end of the SYW version makes the Dance one unnecessary, although I do love the “whoah-whoahs” at the end. “Gypsy”: I guess it was intentionally made to sound like the studio version. The studio version still wins and it’s followed by the Mirage tour versions. “Big Love”: It’s a complete transformation. Impossible to say then, although the Dance one will have people reacting to it immediately. “Go Insane”: See above. Although I still play this one more than the studio cut. “Landslide”: The Dance, and not because of those kisses or anything like that. It just feels so much more resonant these days, when Stevie actually has grown older. The warmth in her voice just wasn’t there in the original. And it’s good that Lindsey has learned to play the piece entirely on his own and doesn’t need any help in the solo section. “Say You Love Me”: The Dance again. The speed makes all the difference and the camp is fun. “You Make Lovin’ Fun”: Original. They’re quite identical. “My Little Demon”: On the GOS version the guitar isn’t that fiery and the tempo isn’t as fast. So it’s The Dance, although I like that demo version too. “Silver Springs”: The 1976/1977 versions. That’s where the intensity lies. “Over My Head”: No noticeable changes, so it’s the original. “Rhiannon”: The 1980 live album. Although I do like it mellow too. “Go Your Own Way”: Since Ken Caillat and Richard Dashut used different takes for the final solo, it’s impossible to reproduce it live like it was in the studio. The 1980 live album has Neil Young-like distortion parts in the solo, and sometimes Lindsey went for a jangly sound at the end. So I guess any version will do in the end. “Tusk”: Those screams are worth a fortune. It lacks the acoustic guitar solo, but otherwise beats the album version. “Don’t Stop”: Even a tent isn’t as campy as the Dance version. That’s why I love it. “Songbird”: The studio, because she starts talking at the end of the Dance version. |
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Bluegrass is in my soul so Id have to say Im tickled by Say You Love Me and the banjo entrance.
I love both versions for the rest of the songs.
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The cuts on "The Dance" that I really love are:
Silver Springs -- the studio track is one of the best things Fleetwood Mac has ever done, but the '97 live version is an enthralling, modern look into the band's heart You Make Loving Fun -- like Silver Springs, the studio track is one of Fleetwood Mac's shining moments on record, but the '97 live version is so well played & sung (Christine's vocal on this is the best lead vocal on the whole album) that it stands pretty proudly beside the original Everywhere -- propulsive little guitar riff courtesy of Lindsey Temporary One, Sweet Girl, Bleed to Love Her, My Little Demon Say You Love Me -- inspired reworking As far as most of the others, I prefer either the studio tracks or performances from the past. |
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I prefer the Dance version for these songs:
Say You Love Me Rhiannon Tusk Don't Stop I prefer the studio version for these songs: The Chain I'm So Afraid Big Love Landslide Silver Springs The rest of the songs I have no preference either way. I hardly listen to the CD version, but I LOVE the Dance DVD. It's just about as good as the Mirage video. |
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