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#61
05-25-2003, 10:40 PM
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I read the post and saw the photos everyone was talking about and in her own words, she said she was a runner. If you weren't familiar with the term, you wouldn't think twice about it. It is rather unusual for industry people to be buying tickets in a fan club presale. One of the things that used to drive me crazy when I worked shows were the comped "vip's" who always thought they were a little bit better than the rest of us because they got a free ticket to the shows. Even worse than them were the folks with laminates who thought the world should just fall at their feet because they had a laminate. Not all of them were like that though. And the really important people, well they didn't wear laminates most of them. Worst case, there are certain "vip" seats that are held back by the promoter that can be bought if no comps are available. Believe me, these seats are excellent and it can be done with a phone call as long as you know who to call. So I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions. 
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05-25-2003, 10:59 PM
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SHE IS A FRAUD OR THE WHOLE THING IS A FRAUD. WHY? BECAUSE: SHE POSTED ON MICK'S BOARD THAT SHE SCORED FIRST ROW SEATS THROUGH THE FAN CLUB. SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO EVER POSTED SHE GOT FRONT ROW IN THE FAN CLUB SALE. HER POST WAS MADE THE SAME DAY OF THE FIRST PRE-SALE, WHEN EVEYONE ELSE SAID THEY COULDN'T GET GOOD SEATS NO MATTER HOW LONG OR HARD THEY TRIED. IS THIS WHAT THE KNIGHT MEANT WHEN HE SAID PEOPLE HAD TO KNOW HOW TO "WORK THE SYSTEM"?
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05-26-2003, 01:46 AM
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05-26-2003, 11:18 AM
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05-26-2003, 11:30 AM
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05-26-2003, 01:38 PM
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WHO DOES HE WORK FOR THEN? IF SHE IS NOT A FRAUD (SHE'S AN ACTUAL FAN NOT CONNECTED WITH THE BAND, PROMOTER, WEBSITE TEAM OR ANYTHING ELSE,) THEN I APOLOGISE FOR POINTING THE FINGER, BUT SOMEONE SAID SHE ADMITS WORKING FOR THE PROMOTER. IF ANYONE HAS MET THIS PERSON, I'LL TAKE BACK MY STATEMENT THAT SHE IS A FRAUD. UNTIL THEN... HOW DO WE KNOW SHE EXISTS, OR WAS ACTUALLY A LEGIT FAN CLUB MEMBER, NOT PART OF JT'S STAFF IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHAT I'M SAYING IS... ALL THE INDICATIONS POINT TO THE FAN CLUB NOT BEING A LEGIT OPERATION. IF IT WERE, ANONYMOUS MEMBERS WOULD HAVE AN EQUAL CHANCE AT TICKETS. THE GOOD SEATS WOULDN'T GO TO PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE ORGANIZATION. MOST BUSINESS ENTERPRISES THAT INVOLVE PEOPLE GETTING SOMETHING BY CHANCE ARE USUALLY REQUIRED TO EXEMPT PARTICIPATION BY ALL WHO WORK FOR THE ORGANIZATION AND ALSO DISQUALIFY RELATIVES OF EVERYONE IN THE ORGANIZATION. THIS CRAP KNIGHT WAS SPINNING THE DAY OF THE FIRST PRE-SALE ABOUT "KNOWING HOW TO WORK THE SYSTEM" IS A BUNCH OF BULL. IF PEOPLE KNEW, FOR SURE, THE BEST SEATS DESIGNATED "FAN CLUB" FOUND THEIR WAY ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO HAD SOME CONNECTION TO THE BAND, PROMOTER, THE WEBSITE, RECORD LABEL, ETC...WOULD THAT SEEM RIGHT TO ANYONE? AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO BELIEVES THE BAND AND THE CONCERT PROMOTERS OWE FANS AN EXPLANATION AND AN AUDIT, OR ACCOUNTING THAT DISCLOSES HOW, WHY, AND WHO GOT THE BEST FAN CLUB SEATS?
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05-26-2003, 01:58 PM
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05-26-2003, 02:09 PM
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05-26-2003, 03:08 PM
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 I would also like to reiterate that one person got front row tickets not once but twice. Last edited by gldstwmn; 05-26-2003 at 03:15 PM..
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05-26-2003, 08:25 PM
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DOES ANYONE THINK THIS WOULD BE LEGAL IF LOTTERY WINNINGS ONLY WENT TO PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR THE POWERBALL? IF CASINO JACKPOTS ONLY WENT TO CASINO AND HOTEL EMPLOYEES, OR THEIR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES, WOULD THIS BE OK? IF A BIG RAFFLE WERE HELD AND THE ONLY WINNERS WERE SOMEHOW CONNECTED TO THE SPONSOR OF THE RAFFLE, WOULD IT PASS THE SMELL TEST, OR WOULD SOMEBODY BE IN BIG TROUBLE? SINCE I DON'T GO TO THAT BOARD ANYMORE, I NEVER SAW THEIR POSTS. IF THEY ARE STILL THERE, WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME THE THREAD OR POSTING A LINK HERE? I DON'T WANT TO TALK OUT OF TURN IF THESE POSTS ARE NO LONGER AROUND, BUT IF THEY ARE, WHY ISN'T ANYONE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS?
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#71
05-26-2003, 11:55 PM
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Here you go. Hope this works.
http://www.mickfleetwood.com/cgi-bin...num=1053615482 http://www.mickfleetwood.com/cgi-bin...677443;start=9 You'll have to scroll down the page to find the posts but they're there. Last edited by gldstwmn; 05-27-2003 at 12:52 PM..
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05-27-2003, 03:37 AM
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FAN CLUB FRAUD
As of last month I sent emails to anyone I could get an email address to complaining about fraud fan club. Not only as I mentioned before did they take my 11 year old daughters also. This was purchased only because the KNIGHT said only 4 tickets per venue, we needed 6 so therefore bought 2 sorry fan club memberships. Not true at all I talked with others who bought up to eight tickets during fan club pre-****ty sale with 1 membership.
I came unglued on other site and ask them how in the hell could they justify cheating an 11 year old out of her $60.00. I want to gag now thinking back on the 2 slugs in control over there e-mailed my daughter telling her how sorry they were about her not getting good seats. Maybe your mommy can take you to another venue and you will get better seats there sweety, as I recall their comments. LIES LIES LIES!!! All of the bull crap they put out to us!! At least my STEVIE (11 year old I mean 12 as of May 25) knows now what the real world is about. Money grubbing PIGS and you must watch closely for them during your life I told her. As of today I have heard nothing from fan club about refund!! Oh I take that back Trinity said about a month ago he would work on it and see what he could do. LOL I believe that when PIGS fly!! The upside is I did use credit card to purchase memberships with and I filed complaint with credit card company and charges were taken off as of now. That was about a month ago and I was told if fan club doesn't dispute reversal of charges within 45 days then I am home free. I have never been so disgusted with a concert pre sale in my whole life........I couldn't even listen to CD for 3-4 days I was so pissed about all the lies we were told. I was almost not even going to go to concert over the whole fiasco. I took some time cooled off and said to myself would Stevie, Lindsey and John really intentionally do this to their fans. No I don't think so for 1 minute. But I hope they catch on soon and get rid of JT he is giving band a bad rep. OK-Landslide
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05-27-2003, 09:07 AM
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Thanks for the update on the DVD situation from Todd #2, Seeknpeace. Sounds like he may be a chip off the block of Todd #1. Let's hope he pulls through. $38.50 is a lot for it. If it's good quality though, I'll pay it.
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#74
05-27-2003, 10:57 PM
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This is an interesting site too: http://www.digitraxx.com/mainloopcd.html Did you know you can get the Ilona CD and Mick's Total Drumming as part of a package deal? Also, if you go to the link at this site for more information about the Ilona CD, there's a long quote from JT touting the CD without mentioning that it's his wife. That's why I was confused at first. Isn't this false advertising? Certainly misleading.
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