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Old 04-13-2018, 02:07 PM
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"The archives" lol k sure.
The entire conversation going on here on both sides is out of line.
Yet posts about Stevie are accepted without question. You are missing my point.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:10 PM
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She's not a celebrity or prominent enough to warrant having a verified account. And it is her real account, she's posted personal pictures of her with Lindsey and their children.
Anyone whose account is linked to a business that has more than 400 followers can be verified. It is not necessary to be a celebrity.

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Old 04-13-2018, 02:13 PM
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She's not a celebrity or prominent enough to warrant having a verified account. And it is her real account, she's posted personal pictures of her with Lindsey and their children.
Anyone whose Insta links to a business can be verified. It's not necessary to be a celeb.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:49 PM
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Anyone whose Insta links to a business can be verified. It's not necessary to be a celeb.
Maybe she feels no desire or great need to verify her mostly furniture account? For someone who's not a celeb or who doesn't have many impersonators running around it's just not that necessary. The point here is that you expressed doubt that the account (as well as her daughter's) is genuinely hers because it's not formally verified. However the personal posts prove that it is indeed her behind the account.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:08 PM
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I get the sense--rightly or wrongly--that her current outlook on all-things Lindsey is distorted by the experiences of decades past.
Most of Stevie's MO is The Past. Lol Her stories and most of her songs are pretty much written...long, long ago. I am not bashing her, just saying. She is VERY nostalgic.

It's just so odd that they go through this cycle of love/hate...over and over. Confusing.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:21 PM
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Maybe she feels no desire or great need to verify her mostly furniture account? For someone who's not a celeb or who doesn't have many impersonators running around it's just not that necessary. The point here is that you expressed doubt that the account (as well as her daughter's) is genuinely hers because it's not formally verified. However the personal posts prove that it is indeed her behind the account.
Take a look at Twitter. There are some very interesting parody accounts for her.
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Old 04-13-2018, 05:14 PM
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oh gawd, how many different threads is this person going to go into and start a whole "we don't know if their accounts are verified" argument? this person has done this in multiple threads already.

if you don't want to accept they are real accounts, good for you. move on.

other people follow those threads and they are real. the one that is his wife's she posts all sorts of stuff about her house, her kids, her horse, her dog, her husband. including short vid clips of her husband working in bed. I mean, come on. It's fine to ask, but when told they've been vetting over the long haul you still demand to define the proof. Believe it or not, and move on.
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Old 04-13-2018, 05:15 PM
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No it's not. It's a non issue. You want to talk about people's sexual forays? Let's talk about Lindsey allegedly cavorting with hookers and randoms on the Say You Will Tour. Don't believe me? Read the archives.
oh dear. sigh. i could care less. it was the original poster's claim.

go troll elsewhere dear.
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Take a look at Twitter. There are some very interesting parody accounts for her.
First of all there's quite a big difference between Twitter and Instagram. I'm aware there are parody accounts that are actually quite funny but extremely obviously a parody for anyone affiliated with FM and its members.
Kristen Buckingham does not have an actual public Twitter though as far as I am aware. What she uses is Instagram, and as far as I've ever seen there are no imitation accounts of her on Instagram that exist. If they ever existed she likely reported them and they were likely shut down.
Second of all you're still missing the point. YOU expressed doubt that her account on Instagram (and also Leelee's) was really her. People including myself responded to you to prove that it is, which the personal pictures and videos that shared that literally no other person could have make obvious.
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Old 04-13-2018, 06:46 PM
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who denied Lindsey's problems? I've actually said I believe at some point he got physical with Stevie.
It's been awhile since I've read Mick's or CAH book.
But wasn't it said that Stevie started it? And I do
mean the physical part.

Stevie's not exactly Ronda Rousey, but if she hit him
or something similar to that first, then he had all the
right in the world to hit back.

If only Stevie's words were more reliable.
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Old 04-13-2018, 06:53 PM
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I think we can safely assume that Lindsey is a jerk who is a misunderstood genius. He's grown up some and hopefully treats his family well but it's abundantly clear that most of the time he's a complete d=ck to Stevie. He is thought of as "difficult" by many in the industry. He may have wanted back in on the tour but with rehearsals underway and dates to be announced soon that's impossible. HE DID THIS TO HIMSELF. So over his canonization on this board. Get a grip people.
^ This. I don’t know about all Stevie’s fans but I & the ones i’m close with are acutely aware of the fact that she can be very difficult. If the tables were turned and FM said “listen, she’s too difficult so we just cannot tour anymore”, I would be disappointed but I wouldn’t be surprised or outraged. She’s deeply flawed but I love her art regardless. She is both a narcisstic diva and an incredibly talented rock & roll icon IMO.
Just like Lindsey is both a jerk and a genius. I honestly don’t know any hardcore LB fans in real life but it seems like the majority of the ones discussing this online are unwilling to accept that maybe he, a notoriously difficult guy, could have been complicit and played some part in the split.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I don’t think there’s any one hero or villain here. Just 5 messy imperfect people who can’t quite get it together.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:36 PM
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It's been awhile since I've read Mick's or CAH book.
But wasn't it said that Stevie started it? And I do
mean the physical part.

Stevie's not exactly Ronda Rousey, but if she hit him
or something similar to that first, then he had all the
right in the world to hit back.

If only Stevie's words were more reliable.
I mean besides the time where he left the band.
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^ This. I don’t know about all Stevie’s fans but I & the ones i’m close with are acutely aware of the fact that she can be very difficult. If the tables were turned and FM said “listen, she’s too difficult so we just cannot tour anymore”, I would be disappointed but I wouldn’t be surprised or outraged. She’s deeply flawed but I love her art regardless. She is both a narcisstic diva and an incredibly talented rock & roll icon IMO.
Just like Lindsey is both a jerk and a genius. I honestly don’t know any hardcore LB fans in real life but it seems like the majority of the ones discussing this online are unwilling to accept that maybe he, a notoriously difficult guy, could have been complicit and played some part in the split.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I don’t think there’s any one hero or villain here. Just 5 messy imperfect people who can’t quite get it together.
oh, many of us very much admit he can be an a**hole, and that he has behaved unacceptably in the past. and wouldn't blame Stevie for never forgetting it. I think he for sure made her life hell for a long, long time. I've been a huge Stevie fan since the 70s.

I think you might have missed the part where many, many of us have continually said, "something is missing from this story" as it has been told so far. The facts don't add up.

However, the credible sources who first told various people who've posted on here that this was coming (and then it came, just as they said it would) have also said that Stevie did in fact issue a "it's me or him" ultimatum. As all their facts have played out accurately so far, it seems reasonable to think they are being truthful about that point too.

So it leaves this gaping hole in our understanding of WTF would have happened to have triggered that kind of ultimatum at THIS point in time, after they have continued working together for 30-40 years after all the abuse and etc.

People are speculating, because it's been told from credible sources that she was the one who forced a choice.
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From what I've read today it seems like Lindsey wanted to do a solo tour on Fleetwood Mac's off days. If any ultimatum was delivered I'd guess that it was one that was delivered by LB to FM. Let me do my solo thing or else. FM chose or else.
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oh, many of us very much admit he can be an a**hole, and that he has behaved unacceptably in the past. and wouldn't blame Stevie for never forgetting it. I think he for sure made her life hell for a long, long time. I've been a huge Stevie fan since the 70s.

I think you might have missed the part where many, many of us have continually said, "something is missing from this story" as it has been told so far. The facts don't add up.

However, the credible sources who first told various people who've posted on here that this was coming (and then it came, just as they said it would) have also said that Stevie did in fact issue a "it's me or him" ultimatum. As all their facts have played out accurately so far, it seems reasonable to think they are being truthful about that point too.

So it leaves this gaping hole in our understanding of WTF would have happened to have triggered that kind of ultimatum at THIS point in time, after they have continued working together for 30-40 years after all the abuse and etc.

People are speculating, because it's been told from credible sources that she was the one who forced a choice.
I really think that, while not forgotten, what happened in the 70s and 80s is in a totally different realm from today. Everyone made everyone's life hell back in those days. Lindsey was an asshole, Stevie was a diva, John was a drunk, Mick was a mess, Christine was annoyed at everyone. That's just how it was.
What happened now I whole heartedly believe is a business/scheduling issue that really went south. I don't think anything triggered anything. At this point in their lives I think they just want to make their money in the easiest way possible and Lindsey's wishes for his solo project was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
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