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I guess the real difference with Jeremy's performances, compared to Green's, is that his goal seems to be to replicate the sound of the original, down to the vocal inflections, thereby blurring the distinction of the singer's sincerity.
The songs where he just sings as himself, are the ones where Spencer shines most strongly. Even his playing becomes more expansive, as if he's shed a self-imposed straitjacket - his covers of Homesick James Williamson's songs, like "Got To Move" and "My Baby Is Sweet", I think are more successful than his Elmore James numbers - He recreates the power of Son House's playing on "Preachin'" but he does not try to sing like him - Fifties rock 'n roll like "Honey Hush" or even "Bo Diddley", and I would bet he used Buddy Holly's recording as his template, work best because he just sang them as himself - those are no more "parodies" than Green singing "Tallahassee Lassie" or "Jenny Jenny" - and even Green could fall into that trap of trying to hard to reproduce a vocal style - his take on "You Need Love" really suffers from that.
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Jeremy's voice!
I guess one of the biggest surprises for me with Kiln House was the sound of Jeremy's voice. He just sounded so different to me than his vocals on Blues Jam or "dog n' dustbin", etc. I know he was trying to do some different impersonations than on previious albums, like the Elvis "This Is The Rock" and Country Western on "Blood On The Floor" or Buddy Holly on "Buddy's Song", but still his voice just had a different tone than what I had heard before. I'm not describing this in a negative way but in a positive. Again only my personal observation, but I liked his vocals best on this album better to those on any of the previous ones.
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Good point. Jeremy probably thought that he had to "show himself" more because he didn't have Peter Green there to be the upfront guy. Jeremy could just take on any persona he wanted due to all the attention that Peter got. Since Danny wasn't all that strong of a personality to take the "frontman" reins, Jeremy had to show a more "real" side of himself. Which obviously (I assume) became to much for him. (and the same thing later with Danny, it seems)
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Just listened to Jeremy's "Mean Old Fireman" from The Original Fleetwood Mac album, for the first time in quite awhile. Now that's a much different vocal style on that track than he uses on his other blues songs - sounds more like the "real" Jeremy.
I'm sure I've heard Jeremy do that song (probably live) under a different title, but I can't think of what it is - anyone know? Seems basically a variation on Otis Rush's "So Many Roads", but I think that "mean old fireman, cruel old engineer" line pops up in other songs too, right? Or maybe I'm just hallucinating again Last edited by sharksfan2000; 02-20-2004 at 01:36 AM.. |
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Jeremy's ability on acoustic guitar was never really given any attention. I think that is a shame - in interviews with various people over the years, and ones that he himself has given, it's been said that he was basically a lazy sod - but you have to wonder, if Vernon had asked him to try a number, would he have refused? If he had complete carte blanche in the studio, why didn't he ever push to record any of his "rock and roll" numbers? There was so much more to the first line-up, Danny included, that went untapped - you get to hear a little of it in the BBC recordings but there was just so much potential that went unused... Aside from being a "train song", I don't think it really has that much in common with Rush's "So Many Roads, So Many Trains". The liner notes to the box set credit it to Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup, but I don't think that's correct. I'm not an expert on Crudup (or anything else, for that matter) but the only "train song" I know by him is "Mean Old 'Frisco Blues" - There are thousands of train blues, and to me, it sounds like Jeremy did what many a bluesman did: take various images, lines, or even whole verses from disparate sources and combine in a new way and call it your own - If anyone has an vinyl pressing of "Original Fleetwood Mac" I'd be curious if that was the composer credit on there too.
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Billy Burnette & Rick Vito were painfully under-utilized as songwriters (as one can hear in the outtakes of the Behind The Mask album ) And, the overall "reinventing" of Fleetwood Mac for the Time album...Bekka & Billy could've been the next "Buckingham Nicks" had they been left to their own devices and not been forced to BE "Buckingham Nicks". Ok, off my soapbox...now back to the Kiln House thread.
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I actually prefer the BBC version of "Hi Ho Silver", I think the sound of Jeremy 's guitar on the studio version is a bit too heavy. How about you people??
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I have to disagree about some assesments of Station Man.
Most guitarists will say this was Danny's post Peter tour de force! It was. Danny and Jeremy were together NOT synched vocalists. Who cares??? These were some master FWM riffs....period! ChiliD, I agree with you about Jeremy and the Children. Most of those songs could have been at home on either Kiln House or Bare Trees. Jeremy's best stuff...and playing (kinda like Danny). I wish I still had that one.
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