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Old 01-16-2005, 10:30 PM
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When did Iraq attack us under this administration?
No one country as a whole attacked us...a group of terrorist did...which are linked to more than one country...and you don't think that Iraq was one of the links in that chain then you are seriously misguided!
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Old 01-16-2005, 10:32 PM
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She dosen't HATE gay people! I don't either!

Liberals are the ones who don't care for gay people...they use them as leverage to win elections (as well as race baiting).

Conservatives just don't want gay people to get married...we don't HATE you!

I don't want to offend you...just because I don't agree with a persons life style...dosen't mean I can't get along with them and be their friend! Sorry...don't want to offend you

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Oh my. Did Iraq ever attack us? No. Just exactly why did the UN refuse to authorize war? Go read Article 2-4 of the UN Charter along with Article 51 and Chapter 7 and get back to me. Here's a hint: it wasn't self defense. Bonus points if you could tell me what Daniel Webster's definition of self defense is!



That's utter bull**** and you know it. Present the truth and not fantasy tales and then we can continue this conversation liked informed adults.
The child is alive...and have you ever witnessed an abortion...because I have had that unfortunate task to see one....the child is sucked out...which ever part they get to first...the suck it out bit by bit...and in a partial birth abortion...they puncture a hole in the head and suck the brain out!
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That's utter bull**** and you know it. Present the truth and not fantasy tales and then we can continue this conversation liked informed adults.
Agreed. The embryo or fetus is not "screaming in agony" during the abortion.
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Conservatives just don't want gay people to get married...we don't HATE you!

Gimme a reason please. If you says the Bible says so.......read Levitius. There are a lot of things that you probably do that are termed "unclean".
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The child is alive...and have you ever witnessed an abortion...because I have had that unfortunate task to see one....the child is sucked out...which ever part they get to first...the suck it out bit by bit...and in a partial birth abortion...they puncture a hole in the head and suck the brain out!
To my knowledge, no one said that anyone should be able to have a partial-birth abortion in any situation. Those are for extreme cases.
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Sorry, but I don't see how liberals hate gay people. I'm a liberal and gay, so that doesn't quite work. Also, not letting us get married is definitely a form of hatred--many Republicans seem to think that marriage is exclusively for heterosexuals. That's called discrimination. And homosexuality is not a lifestyle, just as heterosexuality is not. They are equal in every way. These are things I've been explaining nearly all of my life and I'm quite the broken record. And please don't tell me Ann Coulter doesn't hate gay people. PLEASE. I read her section about gays in her latest book and she doesn't even care if a guy or girl gets to see his or her dying partner in the hospital or not. She truly doesn't give a **** about it.
well this is where we pass beyond politics...and into beliefs and religon...

and as a christian this is my views...but I don't HATE anyone!

and don't get sucked into it...liberals use racial and gay baiting to win elections...which, like this last election shows...blows up in their faces!
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"we like you, you're nice, you just can't have the same basic human rights as we do"
I love you Amber! Let's get married! Oh wait..
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No one country as a whole attacked us...a group of terrorist did...which are linked to more than one country...and you don't think that Iraq was one of the links in that chain then you are seriously misguided!

Let's attack America, too. There are American terrorist that attack our country often.
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The child is alive...and have you ever witnessed an abortion...because I have had that unfortunate task to see one....the child is sucked out...which ever part they get to first...the suck it out bit by bit...and in a partial birth abortion...they puncture a hole in the head and suck the brain out!
Thank you for your colorful explanation, I'm sure you couldn't have said it any better.

Once again, know your **** before jumping into such a conversation. Partial-birth abortions are illegal in many states. The states that allow them have sole discretion as to when and why they are performed. They are only performed when the life of the mother is in jeopardy. The doctor and the state have sole discretion. Please do not confuse abortions with partial birth abortions because it makes you look idiotic.

And I'm still waiting for you to read the UN Charter and for you to define self defense.
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To my knowledge, no one said that anyone should be able to have a partial-birth abortion in any situation. Those are for extreme cases.
extreme? its for NO cases...thanks to President Bush its illegal!
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well this is where we pass beyond politics...and into beliefs and religon...

and as a christian this is my views...but I don't HATE anyone!
It sounds like your belief system requires you to hate select people.

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and don't get sucked into it...liberals use racial and gay baiting to win elections...which, like this last election shows...blows up in their faces!
You see, the liberals are the only ones interested in implementing legislation that is in any way beneficial to minorities.
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I love you Amber! Let's get married! Oh wait..


well, basically that's what he/she said meant. totally ridiculous.
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The only thing that confuses the hell out of me and no one ever gives me a straight answer is how mpst people who think abortion is right don't want the death penalty. Osama and Serial Killers = Should Live and mother who isn't ready to have a baby = kill it.
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Agreed. The embryo or fetus is not "screaming in agony" during the abortion.
It would be physically and biologically impossible for it to do so.
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