Lindsey Buckingham Fought Like Hell To Stay In Fleetwood Mac

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by elle

i'm not really sure where you are getting that. Lindsey didn't write and titled this article, some journalist did.

Right, because some journalist abducted Lindsey and forced him at knifepoint to tell all of the lurid, evil workings of the band that made him famous. Of course he had an agenda and the timing of his new greatest "hits" compilation, tour, lawsuit and interview seems more than a bit suspect to me. Since the world is not exactly waiting on his latest solo project, he probably figured, well, scandalous attention is better than no attention at all. Indeed, what were his true motivations?

if you read Rolling Stone interview with Lindsey, you would notice that both he and Kristen are very mindful to give a balanced picture, she even volunteering without any prompting how he was definitely way more "prickly" when they were first together in the 90s.

HA! In other words St. Kristen came into Lindsey's life and finally tamed the shrew. She probably has almost as big of an ego as Lindsey. The thing about Lindsey, and arguably one of his greatest strengths, is his ability to keep his s*** together in front of an audience (or in this case, a reporter). You can see all of the cogs and gears spinning around in his head very carefully and with precision - like a Rolex watch. Every word that leaves his mouth is stated with intention, every movement calculated, every gesture rehearsed. You can see that he does the same choreography in concert every night like a robot - every speech committed to memory, every leap, every stoop, every feigned expression of humility, every yelp. It is as creepy as it is awe-inspiring, to be quite honest. So of course he is going to articulate this well-rehearsed story for the media that paints him as the victim and Fleetwood Mac, particularly Mick and Stevie, as savagely brutal.

I don't discount his account outright since we haven't heard FM's side of the story. However, based on what I have read, a lot of things just don't compute, i.e., this notion that the band ditched Lindsey for absolutely no reason at all. There has to be a reason.

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I don't discount his account outright since we haven't heard FM's side of the story. However, based on what I have read, a lot of things just don't compute, i.e., this notion that the band ditched Lindsey for absolutely no reason at all. There has to be a reason.

That's the core thrust of the Complaint--there were and always had been various disagreements and the like, but when it comes to something as monumental and final as ejection from the partnership it becomes a question of proportionality, and the point that the Complaint and those supporting Lindsey in this matter are making is that (i) there was no conduct on Lindsey's side that could have warranted a reaction of this proportion, and (ii) if there was, it is highly unlikely that he would have filed this Complaint were he "guilty" and aware of such conduct.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

That's the core thrust of the Complaint--there were and always had been various disagreements and the like, but when it comes to something as monumental and final as ejection from the partnership it becomes a question of proportionality, and the point that the Complaint and those supporting Lindsey in this matter are making is that (i) there was no conduct on Lindsey's side that could have warranted a reaction of this proportion, and (ii) if there was, it is highly unlikely that he would have filed this Complaint were he "guilty" and aware of such conduct.

Uh, tons of lawsuits are filed and tossed out due to lack of merit or standing, and tons more result in a loss for the plaintiff. Merely filing a lawsuit says NOTHING about the validity of the allegations in the complaint.

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Uh, tons of lawsuits are filed and tossed out due to lack of merit or standing, and tons more result in a loss for the plaintiff. Merely filing a lawsuit says NOTHING about the validity of the allegations in the complaint.

The point that I and others are making is that it would not be in Lindsey's character to launch a lawsuit that had no basis in law or fact.

To quote someone wiser than I:

The thing about Lindsey, and arguably one of his greatest strengths, is his ability to keep his s*** together in front of an audience (or in this case, a reporter). You can see all of the cogs and gears spinning around in his head very carefully and with precision - like a Rolex watch. Every word that leaves his mouth is stated with intention, every movement calculated, every gesture rehearsed. You can see that he does the same choreography in concert every night like a robot - every speech committed to memory, every leap, every stoop, every feigned expression of humility, every yelp. It is as creepy as it is awe-inspiring, to be quite honest.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

The point that I and others are making is that it would not be in Lindsey's character to launch a lawsuit that had no basis in law or fact.

Because you and everyone else are clearly BFFs with Lindsey and you all know his character. So what is Lindsey's character, exactly?

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Because you and everyone else are clearly BFFs with Lindsey and you all know his character. So what is Lindsey's character, exactly?

I cordially invite you to revisit the second half of my post--ie the part where I quoted your good self.

(Edit) Sorry, maybe the word "character" was too normatively loaded. I just meant "modus operandi."

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

I cordially invite you to revisit the second half of my post--ie the part where I quoted your good self.

(Edit) Sorry, maybe the word "character" was too normatively loaded. I just meant "modus operandi."

I don't know what his ability to put on a performance has to do with the merits of his lawsuit. My point was that he is in firm control in front of an audience, which doesn't always come across as genuine, let alone believable.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Because you and everyone else are clearly BFFs with Lindsey and you all know his character. So what is Lindsey's character, exactly?

I'm laughing at the stupidity of this post because there are no more gullible fans on this planet than Stevie's fans, who believe she loves them all and her fans are the most important thing in the world for her.

We're not Lindsey's BFF but we're also not drugged with fairy dust from some old witch who prays love and peace all the time and then throws the person that helped her become famous under the bus. That tells A LOT about her character.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I'm laughing at the stupidity of this post because there are no more gullible fans on this planet than Stevie's fans, who believe she loves them all and her fans are the most important thing on the world for her.

We're not Lindsey's BFF but we're also not drugged with fairy dust from some old witch who prays love and peace all the time and then throw the person that helped her become famous under the bus. That tells A LOT about her character.

NO ONE has ever summed up the essence of Chiffon better than this post!

[Buster]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I'm laughing at the stupidity of this post because there are no more gullible fans on this planet than Stevie's fans, who believe she loves them all and her fans are the most important thing in the world for her.

We're not Lindsey's BFF but we're also not drugged with fairy dust from some old witch who prays love and peace all the time and then throws the person that helped her become famous under the bus. That tells A LOT about her character.

Obsessed fans are obsessed fans. For every Stevie fan you’ve described, there is a Lindsey fan who is trying to cozy up to his wife on twitter or get close to Lindsey through his wife on Twitter or urge people to hold Team Lindsey signs at FM concerts, blindly accept everything he says as absolute truth, etc.

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I don't discount his account outright since we haven't heard FM's side of the story. However, based on what I have read, a lot of things just don't compute, i.e., this notion that the band ditched Lindsey for absolutely no reason at all. There has to be a reason.

Didn't we already get their reasons? They went on TV and said that they couldn't delay their tour like Lindsey was asking them. That seemed to be their only main complaint (publicly) and I don't remember them mentioning more.

Clearly Lindsey disagrees with this assertion, as his court filing suggests. But, unless I've missed something, we've heard both sides already: FM says Lindsey wanted to delay they tour and they wanted to move on, while Lindsey says he agreed to tour while offering no direct speculation on the reason he was fired in the court filings.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by Peestie

Didn't we already get their reasons? They went on TV and said that they couldn't delay their tour like Lindsey was asking them. That seemed to be their only main complaint (publicly) and I don't remember them mentioning more.

Clearly Lindsey disagrees with this assertion, as his court filing suggests. But, unless I've missed something, we've heard both sides already: FM says Lindsey wanted to delay they tour and they wanted to move on, while Lindsey says he agreed to tour while offering no direct speculation on the reason he was fired in the court filings.

You are correct.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

You are correct.

Tony, may I calmly say, "They are going to tell another truth?"

there, I said it..

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Tony, may I calmly say, "They are going to tell another truth?"

there, I said it..

Yes--you may say this, because that is what will happen. But we vigilant ones have been watching, keeping record.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Yes--you may say this, because that is what will happen. But we vigilant ones have been watching, keeping record.

I'm going to quickly disconnect my eyes from my brain.. hold on....

You people got a lot of nerve blaming her!!! I've been a fan for years and years!! ...connects eyes back to brain...


Oh wow!! That was awesome, Tony!! I felt high and had velvet coloured glasses.