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Old 06-09-2018, 02:58 PM
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I'm a fan of the man's music but definitely not of his politics. Of course, it's his right to express his views but he's apparently becoming more of an activist.
I think he's an amazing talent who was treated shabbily by the band but at this point I don't think I'll further patronize him.
i think this is partly a result of him currently not having any management, apparently. all these gigs are set by Cameron Crowe, who is his friend.

that said, i know some people have trouble separating politics from the artist. there are people who stopped going to see Springsteen after he stomped and performed at various political events. but - Bruce or Lindsey are not artists who bring their political views in their regular shows. they are different from Roger Waters, for example, in that regard. if a musician makes the show around expressing his political views, then i can see people with different views not patronizing that show. when the show is just music, i can't say that i understand when people say they will stop seeing an amazing artist they love.
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Old 06-09-2018, 03:38 PM
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Oh, I'll still listen to his music but regardless of where any artist sits on the political spectrum, I pay to be entertained and not to be lectured by them - whether they're Roger Waters or Ted Nugent.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:05 PM
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Wow how cool is this, he is such an all-round hero. Will some funds go to helping battered and abused women too?!
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:09 PM
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Oh, I'll still listen to his music but regardless of where any artist sits on the political spectrum, I pay to be entertained and not be lectured by them - whether they're Roger Waters or Ted Nugent.
makes complete sense.

and certainly would not expect anyone not agreeing with particular politics to attend a political fundraiser(where paying to attend equates to donating to that cause). i have to wonder how much the cheapest tix for this will be. this is at the Steven Bochco's (of “Hill Street Blues,” “L.A. Law,” “NYPD Blue,” died of cancer recently) house i believe.
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makes complete sense.

and certainly would not expect anyone not agreeing with particular politics to attend a political fundraiser(where paying to attend equates to donating to that cause). i have to wonder how much the cheapest tix for this will be. this is at the Steven Bochco's (of “Hill Street Blues,” “L.A. Law,” “NYPD Blue,” died of cancer recently) house i believe.
He's out there using his talent for something he believes in. Regardless of the side of the aisle you sit on--I respect that. Ted Kennedy and John McCain were great friends and political "foes". We can all get along.
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:48 PM
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I pay to be entertained and not to be lectured by them.
Where does a song like Murrow Turning Over in His Grave fit on the entertainment/lecturing spectrum, or by 'lecturing' do you just mean speeches between songs?
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:26 PM
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Oh, I'll still listen to his music but regardless of where any artist sits on the political spectrum, I pay to be entertained and not to be lectured by them - whether they're Roger Waters or Ted Nugent.
This is basically the "shut up and sing" argument - which is really sad.

Artists are allowed to have and express their political views - especially those who are in a position to make their voices heard on issues they feel important. You have every right not to see them perform but they are certainly not only making art to simply "entertain" you.
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This is basically the "shut up and sing" argument - which is really sad.

Artists are allowed to have and express their political views - especially those who are in a position to make their voices heard on issues they feel important. You have every right not to see them perform but they are certainly not only making art to simply "entertain" you.
Why is it sad? If I don't agree with the premise of an author I won't buy their book, same with any musicians hawking a political message. They can sing and write to their heart's content but I certainly won't be paying for it.

If I want to read a political tome or attend a political rally that's one thing but if I just want to read or enjoy a concert for entertainment purposes, it's another.
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Old 06-12-2018, 04:32 PM
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In a persons day job its not the done thing to talk politics. In their own time they have every right to do and say what they want to who they want. Entertainers are no different. In his day job Lindsey doesn't talk politics. See fundraisers as being 'his own time'. People are paying to hear him play and hear his message.

Its so weird people are so hung up on the fact other people have different views to them on issues.
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:14 PM
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Gotta chime in on this one...

With artists, they put out there their personal stuff. That's whats make's them the artists that we love. That we support with our 'fandom'. When an artist, notably, singer/songwriters, display their guts and heart over personal episodes in their lives thru their music/writings - isn't that what connects us to them? So when you ask that artist to remain one dimensional (tell me how you've suffered cuz I can relate), how can you groove on who they are?
When artists put themselves open for display - that's vulnerable. And that's what is so gravitational.
However, to pigeonhole an artist to perform as you what them to, is repugnant. If not insulting to who puts themselves out there 'just to entertain' you.
Artists are not 'on demand'.
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I have no problem with Lindsey playing political fundraisers. I do find it tiresome when performers pontificate about politics to audiences at rock concerts, but a fundraiser? As FuzzyPlum said, they can do what they want "on their own time." Whether or not he shares my political opinion is irrelevant.

However, I do wonder if everyone here would be so "who cares what the performer's political opinions are" if Lindsey were playing a Trump fundraiser!
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Gotta chime in on this one...

With artists, they put out there their personal stuff. That's whats make's them the artists that we love. That we support with our 'fandom'. When an artist, notably, singer/songwriters, display their guts and heart over personal episodes in their lives thru their music/writings - isn't that what connects us to them? So when you ask that artist to remain one dimensional (tell me how you've suffered cuz I can relate), how can you groove on who they are?
When artists put themselves open for display - that's vulnerable. And that's what is so gravitational.
However, to pigeonhole an artist to perform as you what them to, is repugnant. If not insulting to who puts themselves out there 'just to entertain' you.
Artists are not 'on demand'.
Perhaps, but I object to being lectured to - I find that to be repugnant, especially when it's on my dime.
I'm a patron who doesn't want to be patronized and told what to do by a guy whose expertise is strumming a six-string or any other instrument.
I don't care how 'vulnerable' they feel, particularly when none of the Macsters can claim to be 'starving artists'.

And I'm sorry but these are PAID professionals ordinarily under contract so yes they are indeed 'on demand'.
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i think this is partly a result of him currently not having any management, apparently. all these gigs are set by Cameron Crowe, who is his friend.
Is there any actual proof he doesn't have management anymore? I mean it would make sense but everyone keeps saying that and as far as I know there's no factual evidence to believe so.
He might just be doing it for his friend and because it's something he supports. He played with Tim Kaine during the election as well.
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:04 PM
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Love it.
Love that he's supporting a cause like this.
And it's extra funny to see certain people get their feathers ruffled over it
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Still waiting for Lindsey to give his side of the story. The longer it takes him to do so, the more it looks like the band's account of events is fairly accurate.
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