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I do understand that maybe some people are not ready to laugh. But it doesn't necessarily follow that the people who do laugh are remiss. So for people who are not ready to laugh to upbraid the people who do laugh is not so much logical as a knee jerk reaction to pain. Which is fine, totally understandable, but not necessarily a logical reaction. Again because obviously none of us are laughing at the actual tragedy. I totally see that some people won't find the pics funny, and that is fine. I just hope those people understand that it is not the tragedies we are laughing at. Not to speak for everyone, but I am sure that no one who laughed at the pics in any way diminish the tragedies. So I just want them to know that. And I do understand that some people might be a little more sensitive to the pictures, and the laughing. So I hope they find comfort in the fact that we are only laughing at the absurdity of super fun lovely Stevie being interspersed with disaster scenes, not at the disaster itself. I would call it the "buggs bunny" reaction - the picture is so funny you can't help but laugh. And I feel confident that anyone who does not find the pictures funny (perfectly within their rights) would still know that anyone who laughs at them does not do so out of malice or joy at whatever disaster is pictured. I think we all know that to the person, we detest needless violence and destruction. I don't want anyone's feelings to be hurt, but I also don't not want to laugh at some super funny creative schnizz. I think the best part right now is that some people who did not think it was funny expressed how they felt, and now we know. So, we are all free to go on from there. We have all viewpoints to draw from. I now know that some of these pics may offend someone, and take it into account, and those offended now know that no one is finding laughter in that which was painful for them, but only from absurd, abstract, silly pictures, and can go on from there. And that means that we understand other points of view, and can or do not change our behavior accordingly, pursuant to our choice with the evidence presented! Score! I gotta say, I feel a bottomless pit of sorrow for those affected by 9-11, or Hitler, or the Hindenburg, or our gross environmental negligence. And I still laugh at these photos. And, I don't expect everyone to find them funny, and that is perfectly fine. But it won't make me think these photos are wrong. I think they're lovely, and creative, and brilliant. And it's fine if someone else does not think so, or can't emotionally think so.
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And no, actually, you have come off with some great statements lately. Almost legalese. Sure you can be rambling, which is a great part of your charm, but you have honed your skill at summation.
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But of course you know an explanation would ensue, this being the wonderful Ledge and all. IMO, people think things are funny, or they don't, in all subjects on the Ledge. I'm glad you guys said you didn't - and it's no big. I don't think everything people do is funny - and I don't always expect others to think what I think is funny, funny. I'm not sure I said that "respect only those who think it is funny" thing. I mean, that doesn't sound like me. I may have said "I only like people who think this is funny" - but I don't think I even said that - so........... uh....
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Actually, yeah, you did ask me to...picture something. You did that after quoting me, and you did it in what came off to me as an accusatory, angry, and utterly sarcastic tone. So, yeah it was personal. Was it an attack ? I didn't say it was an attack. It sure was a release of some pointed aggression though. And it was directed at me. I'll eat my boots if you weren't pissed off writing that. And since it was directed at me, how could you say it wasn't personal and keep a straight face ? Just curious.
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That's how you pronounce it?!?!? You are soooo African. I can't believe Mr. Oregon sparky is schooling. - Kahschweesheeyaa! Kahschweesheeaaaaah! I am Kaschweesheeah! Bitaccttchhhaaahhh! This is so unfair given the fact that your name is DaShwan, or some facsimile. don't make me Blue Lamp your ass! I have to take a class to figure out the name you gave me??? Oh,that's right, feel the wrath - gahhhdiannnAaangelll...gaaahhhdian....if youwuhwizushyouwouldgetooouttt...oooo...yeah....oooooo...yeahhh... I'll have to invoke the "Guaaahhhrdian Aaaangelllll" exemption.
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It's fine if you don't think it is funny. The important thing is that you do realize it may be funny to other people who also have extreme empathy for any hardships/disasters that people have had to endure. I'm sorry our gallows humor with Stevie placed in certain fictional positions of destruction make you mad - but what makes me mad is the misinterpretation of intentions, and the unwillingness to allow for the difference between humor and satire, and that which is really felt. We've all told you we don't make light of 9-11 or any other tragedy - why are you trying to hold us hostage with "politically correct" actions rather than focusing on our real feelings, which are light years away from finding good in any terrorist act, or any expression of intolerance?! It's downright insulting! It's a slap in the face to any forward thinking ledgie, which includes most ledgies. We are among the most humanitarian, forward thinking, tolerant people on earth - yet you try to condemn us because we laugh at some pics of STevie interspersed with disasters? We are trying to express some joy and levity, and we're obviosly some great, intelligent, advanced thinkers - but you try to split hairs with us on semantics, and meaningless crap?! It's a travesty! It is not seeing the forest for the trees at it's worst! Do you honestly think that we don't care about every single person that was effected by 9-11? Do you honestly think that any of us have to be reminded of any sorrow? Do you honestly think that any of us derive pleasure from the heinousness that has happened in the world? If you do, you are woefully mistaken. Our laughter from the Stevie pics has nothing to do with laughing at tragedy. And the fact that you would'nt recognize that, and would imply that those of us who laughed had nefarious motivations that were far uglier, and less tolerant, and blind - than anything an actual cruel person could ever perpetrate - is abominable. We're not cruel people. We don't laugh at tragedy. We don't think it's cool. So please, PLEASE -Take what we say in context, don't try to pin historical responsibility on us just because you can't discern context. That isn't us, that is not how we are. And it pisses us off for you to imply, through faulty logic, that we are that way, that we feel anything less than full sympathy for any tragedy. I mean, you're making me sick right now, with your shallow misinterpretation. Do you really think that any ledgie wishes ill on any other? Do you really think that any of us think nine eleven was something happy and fun to make jokes of? Let us not be oversensitive to the point of fault, okay? Can we just assume enough mutual respect that we don't have to call people out for stupid meaningless **** that isn't even happening? That no one even feels? Thank you! That would be awesome! Or, you can continue to take umbrage for no, I repeat, no, reason. But that will make you an a-hole, I have to say. To take offense when no one meant offense, and agrees with you, is lamatoid. It's the worst kind of lamatoid arthritis. It is the hardening of the ideas, and the inability to recognize reality, and anything that is important. It's the inflexibility of the mind, the mind that is impervious to logic and new ideas. It's the mind who takes offense based on old paradigms which do not even exist anymore, and have not even been expressed. The mind that takes umbrage on that which they have imagined, rather than what is actually being thought/said, and the intention inherent. Sad. Let's all catch up to the future, and use our brains to recognize context, shall we? Thus enabling us to pick our battles - of which this should not be one. It is laughable to imply that any ledgie meant ill will by interspersing Stevie's pic with those of well known disasters. It is an epic misinterpretation, a great faltering of brain power, a return to base emotions without logic, and a monument to self absorption without reason. I am insulted, to be honest. Insulted that someone didn't bother to think further than their own emotional reaction. Didn't bother to think about the real intention of the act. And I am dismayed to think that though the logic was readily at hand, some chose to assume a personal affront by anyone who had laughed at the pics, not bothering to think that one extra step ahead - the one where they realized that obviously no opinion expressed was calculated to offend, or even make light of any tragedy. That no laughter resulting from the pic was in any way calculated to make pain for them and their very personal experience with the information. I mean, C'mon! Less get a grip! So Nyeah.
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"Do not be afraid! I am Esteban de la Sexface!" "In order to live free and happily, you must sacrifice boredom. It is not always an easy sacrifice" Whehyll I can do EHYT!! Wehyll I can make it WAHN moh thihme! (wheyllit'sA reayllongwaytogooo! To say goodbhiiy!) - Last edited by amber; 08-07-2006 at 11:36 PM.. |
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I hope this thread DIES!
Where is the LOVE people??? Count to 10...... Last edited by BlackWidow; 08-07-2006 at 11:37 PM.. |
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I don't think SortaSavageLike ever intended for this thread to dredge up traumatic memories for anyone, and I'm certain he never meant to offend anyone. In fact, I believe this whole "fun with Photoshop" thing was meant to help take his mind off of an upsetting situation going on in his own family, and he decided to share the results with the rest of us.
At any rate, since emotions are running a bit high, maybe it's a good idea to take a step back and not continue arguing about a thread that was meant as nothing more than a bit of absurdity.
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