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Old 02-02-2015, 05:17 PM
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For Stevie, it's all about the production. I think both she and the band are trying to figure out what they want, and that's where they disagree. There's no doubt they can crank out songs...but what really makes the songs work is how they sound and the overall sound they are going for. I feel that hasn't gelled 100% in a long time.
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:17 PM
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I think its flat out wrong to assert Nicks can't write a decent song anymore. Her songwriting has really rebounded since the nadir of the Street Angel days. "Trouble In Shangri-La", "Love Is", "Fall From Grace", "Bombay Sapphires", "Say You Will", "Thrown Down", "Destiny Rules", "Illume", "Space Needle", are all excellent songs and are all recent compositions. She went on a tangent writing songs with Dave Stewart for In Your Dreams, and she had limited time so she went with developing demos for 24 Karat Gold, but she obviously can still write very good songs.
isn't Space Needle an oldie (demo) from the vault??
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:02 PM
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^It don't matter, she is still the most successful solo member of this band......EVER.
Right, and all the fans here who keep holding their collective breaths for the band to release new music should rue the day she ever became so successful. Her success doomed the band.

I frankly couldn't care less if FM records ever again, and I don't go to their nostalgia shows because I'd rather hear fresh music, especially if I'm expected to pay a couple hundred dollars for a ticket. I just wish they would end this dance so Lindsey can go back to his solo career and put out music that is far more interesting and gratifying than what this band is likely to produce. If the four-song EP is any indication of the quality of music FM would release in a new album, I would definitely pass.

Overall, this is just such a waste of time. Here you have one of the least prolific, yet famous, bands of all time unable to put out new music -- a band that has inspired countless others and is often held up as a significant contributor to the history of rock. If this is how FM goes out, it's so terribly pathetic and sad. And it's all Stevie's fault.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:07 PM
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I think its flat out wrong to assert Nicks can't write a decent song anymore. Her songwriting has really rebounded since the nadir of the Street Angel days. "Trouble In Shangri-La", "Love Is", "Fall From Grace", "Bombay Sapphires", "Say You Will", "Thrown Down", "Destiny Rules", "Illume", "Space Needle", are all excellent songs and are all recent compositions. She went on a tangent writing songs with Dave Stewart for In Your Dreams, and she had limited time so she went with developing demos for 24 Karat Gold, but she obviously can still write very good songs.
Even if any of those songs were at the level of Sara, Dreams or Landslide -- which they are not -- they are still more than a decade old. My contention is that right now Stevie can't write a decent song. There's no shame in that. Some writers have brilliant output until their dying breath, while others fade after a burst of brillance. Such is life.
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Old 02-03-2015, 09:19 AM
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Even if any of those songs were at the level of Sara, Dreams or Landslide -- which they are not -- they are still more than a decade old. My contention is that right now Stevie can't write a decent song. There's no shame in that. Some writers have brilliant output until their dying breath, while others fade after a burst of brillance. Such is life.
You people on this board act like you speak to the members of the band on an ongoing basis. How do you know she hasn't written an awesome song in the last couple of months? And as far as everything being Stevie's fault...you are probably right. She is the main reason they are still touring and making millions of dollars. If they didn't have that, Lindsey Buckingham (who most everyone I know thinks is a pompous ass and cant handle when anyone else in the band is the center of attention) wouldn't be able to even put out that music. He wouldn't the money or the backing without all this touring with FM. I hope Stevie does walk away from this band...just to give you people what you supposedly want. And then FM will be never heard from again in any major way...but Stevie will.
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Old 02-03-2015, 09:32 AM
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You people on this board act like you speak to the members of the band on an ongoing basis. How do you know she hasn't written an awesome song in the last couple of months? And as far as everything being Stevie's fault...you are probably right. She is the main reason they are still touring and making millions of dollars. If they didn't have that, Lindsey Buckingham (who most everyone I know thinks is a pompous ass and cant handle when anyone else in the band is the center of attention) wouldn't be able to even put out that music. He wouldn't the money or the backing without all this touring with FM. I hope Stevie does walk away from this band...just to give you people what you supposedly want. And then FM will be never heard from again in any major way...but Stevie will.
I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring.
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Old 02-03-2015, 09:34 AM
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I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring.
no it'$ not
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Old 02-03-2015, 09:38 AM
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no it'$ not
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:09 AM
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You people on this board act like you speak to the members of the band on an ongoing basis. How do you know she hasn't written an awesome song in the last couple of months? And as far as everything being Stevie's fault...you are probably right. She is the main reason they are still touring and making millions of dollars. If they didn't have that, Lindsey Buckingham (who most everyone I know thinks is a pompous ass and cant handle when anyone else in the band is the center of attention) wouldn't be able to even put out that music. He wouldn't the money or the backing without all this touring with FM. I hope Stevie does walk away from this band...just to give you people what you supposedly want. And then FM will be never heard from again in any major way...but Stevie will.
Remember when Warner Brothers gave Stevie a record deal but told LB they were not interested in his songs but maybe he could put them on the next FM record

If FM had broken up or Stevie had walked away during the "Rumours" days LB probably would have been replaced or quit just like the many before or after him and the name "Lindsey Buckingham" would be a long forgotten side note in the history of FM. Stevie would have hade a successful solo career since the ground work to set Stevie up as a "solo artist along with early recordings for her first record were already being set up long before "Tusk" came out.
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:11 AM
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I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring.
On this tour yes...If CM had not returned you would probably not be hearing from FM until 2016 or 2017.
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:52 AM
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Remember when Warner Brothers gave Stevie a record deal but told LB they were not interested in his songs but maybe he could put them on the next FM record

If FM had broken up or Stevie had walked away during the "Rumours" days LB probably would have been replaced or quit just like the many before or after him and the name "Lindsey Buckingham" would be a long forgotten side note in the history of FM. Stevie would have hade a successful solo career since the ground work to set Stevie up as a "solo artist along with early recordings for her first record were already being set up long before "Tusk" came out.
Hard to say. Lindsey could have had a successful career as a producer. He was sought out by a number of artists at the time. He might have joined a band with the kind of music he was more interested in doing at the time. Or he might well have found his right place to fade.

Stevie might or might not have had a successful solo career. If she hadn't teamed up with Jimmy Iovine, and instead some sycophantic producer, it could have all gone very differently. Jimmy kept her grounded. She was just lucky that early on she happened to sleep with two great producers -- Lindsey and Jimmy -- who had great instincts for her song sketches. But it's all speculation. Who knows what would have happened?
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:01 AM
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Right, and all the fans here who keep holding their collective breaths for the band to release new music should rue the day she ever became so successful. Her success doomed the band.

I frankly couldn't care less if FM records ever again, and I don't go to their nostalgia shows because I'd rather hear fresh music, especially if I'm expected to pay a couple hundred dollars for a ticket. I just wish they would end this dance so Lindsey can go back to his solo career and put out music that is far more interesting and gratifying than what this band is likely to produce. If the four-song EP is any indication of the quality of music FM would release in a new album, I would definitely pass.

Overall, this is just such a waste of time. Here you have one of the least prolific, yet famous, bands of all time unable to put out new music -- a band that has inspired countless others and is often held up as a significant contributor to the history of rock. If this is how FM goes out, it's so terribly pathetic and sad. And it's all Stevie's fault.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:09 AM
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On this tour yes...If CM had not returned you would probably not be hearing from FM until 2016 or 2017.
That was my point, exactly.
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Hard to say. Lindsey could have had a successful career as a producer. He was sought out by a number of artists at the time. He might have joined a band with the kind of music he was more interested in doing at the time. Or he might well have found his right place to fade.

Stevie might or might not have had a successful solo career. If she hadn't teamed up with Jimmy Iovine, and instead some sycophantic producer, it could have all gone very differently. Jimmy kept her grounded. She was just lucky that early on she happened to sleep with two great producers -- Lindsey and Jimmy -- who had great instincts for her song sketches. But it's all speculation. Who knows what would have happened?
You're exactly right. What if's will always go the way of the fan's "agenda".
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:44 AM
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I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring.
this quote and Olive's "no it'$ not"are made up of different words but are identical - Christine = $
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