No Grammy's for "24 Karat Gold"

BlueDenimLamp · #1 01-08-2015, 01:59 PM

The Grammy nominations are out 2015 Grammy's and it looks like "24K" has been completely ignored...If Stevie had properly promoted "24K' it might have been a different story.

WildHearted · #2 01-08-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

The Grammy nominations are out 2015 Grammy's and it looks like "24K" has been completely ignored...If Stevie had properly promoted "24K' it might have been a different story.

I love 24KG but I doubt it, really.

Stevie has never been the Grammy's darling - and they merged the category she used to get nominated for (Best Female Rock Vocal) with its male counterpart a few years back, so the competition is stiff.

Fannymac · #3 01-08-2015, 03:39 PM

I don't think it was eligible....I think the cut off date was September 30th, so even though the vinyl was out, I think the actual street date was viewed as October 7th.
Maybe next year (but I kind of doubt it.....this seems like more of a "fan" album!)?

Nick · #4 01-08-2015, 07:58 PM

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I don't think it was eligible....I think the cut off date was September 30th, so even though the vinyl was out, I think the actual street date was viewed as October 7th.
Maybe next year (but I kind of doubt it.....this seems like more of a "fan" album!)?

Yep. The Grammy cutoff was 9/30, but sometimes labels release the vinyl album prior to the CD/digital release date to be eligible.

Not sure when Stevie's vinyl was released, but I agree with you that this was most likely viewed as a fan album, and not a proper studio album.

Macfanforever · #5 01-08-2015, 11:51 PM

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Yep. The Grammy cutoff was 9/30, but sometimes labels release the vinyl album prior to the CD/digital release date to be eligible.

Not sure when Stevie's vinyl was released, but I agree with you that this was most likely viewed as a fan album, and not a proper studio album.

Looks like she missed the boat on getting it out on time. What else is new.She is always overlooked with this organization .

I dont know why she waste her time dealing with this organization since they dont give a sheet about her.She and FM are always overlooked.

It will looks like the FM album release will missed the boat for next years Grammy' s.

WildHearted · #6 01-09-2015, 02:00 AM

When things miss the eligibility date it doesn't mean they can't be nominated period - it means they can't be nominated for THAT particular year. They just get shifted to the next Grammy's instead.

Jondalar · #7 01-09-2015, 04:33 AM

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Yep. The Grammy cutoff was 9/30, but sometimes labels release the vinyl album prior to the CD/digital release date to be eligible.

Not sure when Stevie's vinyl was released, but I agree with you that this was most likely viewed as a fan album, and not a proper studio album.

A fan album? Only fans would like TOSOTM or Street Angel or TISL. This album is terrific and for the masses.

KarmaContestant · #8 01-09-2015, 12:33 PM

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A fan album? Only fans would like TOSOTM or Street Angel or TISL. This album is terrific and for the masses.

I agree with you. 24 Karat Gold is not a 'fan album'. It's critically acclaimed in many publications as her best since the 80's. The Grammy's don't care when songs were written. All that matters is that it meets the criteria for the release dates.

With so many in the music industry professing that Stevie is their darling, you'd think she would have some clout for a nomination.

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twinmatrix · #9 01-09-2015, 03:45 PM

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A fan album? Only fans would like TOSOTM or Street Angel or TISL. This album is terrific and for the masses.

What? TOSOTM was her most popular release in Europe right, and TISL is amazing, full of "hits" like Planets of the Universe. Street Angel isn't a "fan release" either, although I guess only fans would like it.

But I can see 24 Karat Gold as a "fan album", definitely.

Nick · #10 01-10-2015, 08:34 PM

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A fan album? Only fans would like TOSOTM or Street Angel or TISL. This album is terrific and for the masses.

I agree! I just think it didn't get the proper push/promotion as a brand new studio album from a veteran artist. Of course, her concert schedule with FM may have been the reason why.

pryderi · #11 01-10-2015, 08:51 PM

I honestly thought it would sell much better after seeing the Lady video hit 500,000 views in no time at all.

Macfanforever · #12 01-10-2015, 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=Nick;1157655]I agree! I just think it didn't get the proper push/promotion as a brand new studio album from a veteran artist. Of course, her concert schedule with FM may have been the reason why.[/QUOTE

Bingo .I agree.The timing was or is all screwed up.The same when she toured with Rod Stewart .She could of takin a rain check from that tour.It ruined her IYD release when she got sick.

To bad the artists or bands have to sign those multiple album contracts.

Jondalar · #13 01-11-2015, 12:13 AM

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What? TOSOTM was her most popular release in Europe right, and TISL is amazing, full of "hits" like Planets of the Universe. Street Angel isn't a "fan release" either, although I guess only fans would like it.

But I can see 24 Karat Gold as a "fan album", definitely.

You're crazy. TOSOM did well in Europe because it came after Tango in the Night which was a huge hit over there. She had a major push from The Dance for TISL that led the album to go gold. But the album didn't live up to the hype and never got good word of mouth and just died. Only Nicks fans would like those albums.

24K has the music to back it up. What has killed it is the lack of promotion and her fans who can't get over the demos or get over the fact that the album has actually done well critically.

twinmatrix · #14 01-11-2015, 06:11 AM

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You're crazy. TOSOM did well in Europe because it came after Tango in the Night which was a huge hit over there. She had a major push from The Dance for TISL that led the album to go gold. But the album didn't live up to the hype and never got good word of mouth and just died. Only Nicks fans would like those albums.

24K has the music to back it up. What has killed it is the lack of promotion and her fans who can't get over the demos or get over the fact that the album has actually done well critically.

I have to disagree, I don't think 24 Karat Gold actually has any hits. It's an awesome album but it's basically a collection of demos and throw-away songs that were re-recorded. It's literally the closest thing you can get to a "fan album" per definition -- a collection of songs that only fans ever knew or cared about. Plus, to quote Stevie, she was trying to "make a good album, not a hit record" (paraphrasing). On the other hand, Rooms on Fire, Two Kinds of Love, Whole Lotta Trouble, Planets in the Universe and Sorcerer are quite well-known. At least here.

Sad TISL didn't get good word of mouth. That album is flawless.

I don't know why you call me crazy though, haha. Don't take my opinion of the album as a personal attack? :P

Jondalar · #15 01-11-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by twinmatrix

I have to disagree, I don't think 24 Karat Gold actually has any hits. It's an awesome album but it's basically a collection of demos and throw-away songs that were re-recorded. It's literally the closest thing you can get to a "fan album" per definition -- a collection of songs that only fans ever knew or cared about. Plus, to quote Stevie, she was trying to "make a good album, not a hit record" (paraphrasing). On the other hand, Rooms on Fire, Two Kinds of Love, Whole Lotta Trouble, Planets in the Universe and Sorcerer are quite well-known. At least here.

Sad TISL didn't get good word of mouth. That album is flawless.

I don't know why you call me crazy though, haha. Don't take my opinion of the album as a personal attack? :P

If she were in her heyday, plenty of songs would of charted in the top 40 from 24k. Radio won't play her now. She is old, she is a woman and she is rock. Country radio is too backward to play music from a so called witch. 24k is a great album. The songs from TOSOTM and TISL mostly sound like demos.