If you could update The Chain box set, your tracklisting would be?

[KenshiMaster16]

Since the 45'th was last year, if you could re-update The Chain box set, what tracklisting would you use or do? Just interested in the idea as I was fiddling around with my iTunes playlists and wanted an random collection of Mac material to play in my store and came up with this list. I've tinkered a bit with the order and considering the new songs from the EP were recorded last year, I've added two of them to the list. Anyways, here's my list;

01 The Chain
02 Dreams
03 Sad Angel
04 You Make Loving Fun
05 Say You Will
06 Isn't It Midnight
07 Big Love
08 Everywhere
09 Paper Doll
10 Love Shines
11 Sara
12 That's All For Everyone
13 Over My Head
14 Little Lies
15 Eyes Of The World
16 Thrown Down
17 In The Back Of My Mind
18 Silver Springs

01 Save Me
02 I Wonder Why
03 Fireflies
04 What Makes You Think You're The One
05 Nights In Estoril
06 Gypsy
07 Think About Me
08 Second Hand News
09 Love In Store
10 Without You
11 Peacekeeper
12 Seven Wonders
13 World Turning
14 I'm So Afraid
15 Love Is Dangerous
16 As Long As You Follow
17 Not That Funny
18 Gold Dust Woman

01 Say You Love Me
02 Angel
03 Don't Stop
04 Rhiannon
05 Steal Your Heart Away
06 Storms
07 Go Your Own Way
08 Sisters Of The Moon
09 Monday Morning
10 Landslide
11 Tusk
12 Hold Me
13 Straight Back
14 Over & Over
15 Save Me A Place
16 Beautiful Child
17 Never Going Back Again
18 Songbird

01 I Believe My Time Ain't Long
02 Need Your Love So Bad
03 Rattlesnake Shake
04 Oh Well, Pt. 1
05 Stop Messin' Round
06 The Green Manalishi
07 Albatross
08 Man Of The World
09 Black Magic Woman
10 Watch Out
11 Station Man
12 Did You Ever Love Me
13 Sentimental Lady
14 Lay It All Down
15 Hypnotized
16 Come A Little Bit Closer
17 Heroes Are Hard To Find
18 Why

[FierySequences]

Wow, what a loaded Question. IMO The Chain needs another "link", not an updated version.

If I were Mick's manager I would suggest a completely new box set. The format would be a "Best Of" CD of each individual and then maybe a mix CD of the colaborations (Don't Stop, Hold Me, Did You Ever Love Me, Station Man, Chain, WT, etc). Each CD could be sold seperatly or within the box.

Great topic, tho. I look forward to reading reponses.

[TrueFaith77]

I would like a four-disc box set with about 80 versions of Go Your Own Way.

[moon]

Well, recently I made a playlist to my sister, with 60 songs. I've got space for 12 more songs here!

35? Years - The Chain

Disc 1
01. Need your love so bad
02. Oh Well (Part I)
03. Rattlesnake Shake
04. Stop Messin' Round
05. The Green Manalishi
06. Albatross
07. Man of the World
08. Black Magic Woman
09. Woman of 1000 years
10. Child Of Mine
11. Sunny Side Of Heaven
12. Sentimental Lady
13. Spare Me A Little
14. Hypnotized
15. Remember Me
16. Bright Fire
17. Caught In The Rain


Disc 2
01. Heroes are hard to find
02. Coming Home
03. Come A Little Bit Closer
04. Monday Morning
05. Warm Ways
06. Rhiannon
07. Over My Head
08. Landslide
09. Say you love me
10. Second Hand News
11. Dreams
12. Never Going Back Again
13. Don't Stop
14. Go Your Own Way
15. The Chain
16. Silver Spings
17. You Make Loving Fun
18. Gold Dust Woman


Disc 3
01. Think About Me
02. Sara
03. What Makes You Think You're The One
04. Sisters Of The Moon
05. Angel
06. Brown Eyes
07. Tusk
08. Over & Over (from Live)
09. Not That Funny (from Live)
10. Goodbye Angel
11. Love In Store
12. Can't Go Back
13. Book Of Love
14. Gypsy
15. Straight Back
16. Hold Me
17. Oh Diane


Disc 4
01. Big Love
02. Seven Wonders
03. Everywhere
04. Tango In The Night
05. Little Lies
06. Isn't It Midnight (Alternate Mix)
07. You & I (Part I)
08. Book of Miracles
09. Down Endless Street
10. As Long As You Follow
11. In the back of my mind
12. Paper Doll
13. I'm So Afraid (from The Dance, and complete)
14. Bleed to love Her (from The Dance)
15. Say You Will
16. Peacekeeper
17. Everybody Finds Out
18. Say Goodbye
19. Sad Angel

Sorry but I put the songs in order, with two or three exceptions.
Regards!
Mark.

[Dex]

Originally Posted by FierySequences

If I were Mick's manager I would suggest a completely new box set. The format would be a "Best Of" CD of each individual and then maybe a mix CD of the colaborations (Don't Stop, Hold Me, Did You Ever Love Me, Station Man, Chain, WT, etc). Each CD could be sold seperatly or within the box.

I've often wondered why they haven't released compilation albums featuring the individual songwriters in this way. Their work is often so different, and they divide fandom so much, it just seems like a really logical way to repackage the songs. Glad it's not just me that's had that idea.

That said, I was a Stevie fan before a FM fan, and if I'd been able to purchase a "Stevie Nicks songs" FM compilation, I may have stopped exploring the Mac catalogue and missed out on tons of great music.

I'm not sure a new boxed set is warranted. What I want is a Best-of album covering the Bob Welch era. People miss out on it, and it is sort of up-and-down in terms of quality which makes people inclined to write it off more than they should. Such an album could really be helpful in getting more people to dip their toe into that era.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Dex

I was a Stevie fan before a FM fan, and if I'd been able to purchase a "Stevie Nicks songs" FM compilation, I may have stopped exploring the Mac catalogue and missed out on tons of great music.

I agree. Stevie and Lindsey were the gateway drug for me to want to try out older FM material.

[MacShadowsBall]

Here's what I came up with today fairly close to the '92 box set, with stuff from Time, Say You Will, the Dance, and Extended Play in the set. Along with some live versions replacing album versions.


Disc #1 - Pre-Rumours Era!

1. Black Magic Woman
2. Need Your Love So Bad
3. Shake Your Money Maker
4. Albatross
5. Man of the World
6. Oh Well
7. The Green Manalishi
8. This is the Rock
9. Station Man
10. Dragonfly
11. Future Games
12. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
13. Sunny Side of Heaven
14. Sentimental Lady
15. Why
16. Hypnotized
17. Did You Ever Love Me
18. Come a Little Bit Closer

Disc #2 Rumours Era - The 70's!

1. Monday Morning
2. World Turning
3. Rhiannon
4. Over My Head
5. The Chain
6. Second Hand News
7. You Make Loving Fun
8. Never Going Back Again
9. Dreams
10. Don’t Stop
11. Go Your Own Way
12. Gold Dust Woman
13. Think About Me
14. The Ledge
15. Brown Eyes
16. Sara
17. I Know I’m Not Wrong
18. Storms


Disc #3 Rumours Era - The '80s and Today!

1. Gypsy
2. Love in Store
3. Oh Diane
4. That's Alright
5. Hold Me
6. Everywhere
7. Seven Wonders
8. Little Lies
9. Tango in the Night
10. Isn’t It Midnight
11. Big Love
12. Say You Will
13. Steal Your Heart Away
14. Peacekeeper
15. Thrown Down
16. Say Goodbye
17. Sad Angel
18. Without You


Disc #4 Post-Rumours Era and Live Hits!

1. As Long As You Follow
2. Freedom
3. When the Sun Comes Down
4. Save Me
5. Love is Dangerous
6. In the Back of My Mind
7. Nights in Estoril
8. I Wonder Why
9. Winds of Change
10. I’m So Afraid [live, Rosebud]
11. Sisters of the Moon [live, Mirage '82]
12. Eyes of the World [live, Mirage ‘82]
13. Temporary One [live, the Dance]
14. Silver Springs [live, the Dance]
15. Tusk [live, the Dance]
16. Songbird [live, the Dance]
17. Say You Love Me [live, RRHOF ceremony]
18. Landslide [live, 2013 tour]

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Here's what I came up with today fairly close to the '92 box set, with stuff from Time, Say You Will, the Dance, and Extended Play in the set. Along with some live versions replacing album versions.


Disc #1 - Pre-Rumours Era!

1. Black Magic Woman
2. Need Your Love So Bad
3. Shake Your Money Maker
4. Albatross
5. Man of the World
6. Oh Well
7. The Green Manalishi
8. This is the Rock
9. Station Man
10. Dragonfly
11. Future Games
12. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
13. Sunny Side of Heaven
14. Sentimental Lady
15. Why
16. Hypnotized
17. Did You Ever Love Me
18. Come a Little Bit Closer

Disc #2 Rumours Era - The 70's!

1. Monday Morning
2. World Turning
3. Rhiannon
4. Over My Head
5. The Chain
6. Second Hand News
7. You Make Loving Fun
8. Never Going Back Again
9. Dreams
10. Don’t Stop
11. Go Your Own Way
12. Gold Dust Woman
13. Think About Me
14. The Ledge
15. Brown Eyes
16. Sara
17. I Know I’m Not Wrong
18. Storms


Disc #3 Rumours Era - The '80s and Today!

1. Gypsy
2. Love in Store
3. Oh Diane
4. That's Alright
5. Hold Me
6. Everywhere
7. Seven Wonders
8. Little Lies
9. Tango in the Night
10. Isn’t It Midnight
11. Big Love
12. Say You Will
13. Steal Your Heart Away
14. Peacekeeper
15. Thrown Down
16. Say Goodbye
17. Sad Angel
18. Without You


Disc #4 Post-Rumours Era and Live Hits!

1. As Long As You Follow
2. Freedom
3. When the Sun Comes Down
4. Save Me
5. Love is Dangerous
6. In the Back of My Mind
7. Nights in Estoril
8. I Wonder Why
9. Winds of Change
10. I’m So Afraid [live, Rosebud]
11. Sisters of the Moon [live, Mirage '82]
12. Eyes of the World [live, Mirage ‘82]
13. Temporary One [live, the Dance]
14. Silver Springs [live, the Dance]
15. Tusk [live, the Dance]
16. Songbird [live, the Dance]
17. Say You Love Me [live, RRHOF ceremony]
18. Landslide [live, 2013 tour]

This is about the closest to what I would come up with (hmmmm...with the inclusion of "Silver Springs", you have the ENTIRE original pre-release track line-up of the Rumours album. Really? Do we NEED that album AGAIN? I'd pare down a couple of songs from that one); except, in place of the 8 live tracks, I'd have:

"Purple Dancer" (original 45 mix; which hasn't been released on CD)
"World In Harmony" (the original 45 mix, which hasn't seen itself on CD either)
"Trinity" (the Danny Kirwan Bare Trees outtake)
"Bermuda Triangle" (a live version from '74)
"Cool Water" (the "Gypsy" single B-side)
the Tango... singles' B-sides ("Book of Miracles", "You & I, Part 1", "Down Endless Street")


"Oh Diane"?? No, I wouldn't inflict that on Fleetwood Mac fans again, either; would insert the Mirage outtake "Goodbye Angel" instead.

Would put a 1975-76 era live "Rhiannon" in place of the studio track

Would include "Paper Doll" & "Love Shines".

Well, I guess this one really ISN'T as close to what I'd compile as I originally thought.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Dex

What I want is a Best-of album covering the Bob Welch era. People miss out on it, and it is sort of up-and-down in terms of quality which makes people inclined to write it off more than they should. .

No more "up & down" than the Rumours-era material. Just because the albums SOLD a ton and the prior lineups albums didn't, doesn't mean the non-hit material was over all any better than Fleetwood Mac had done earlier. For me, there's less "filler" on pre-Rumours era albums than on FMac albums between '75-87.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by chiliD

No more "up & down" than the Rumours-era material. Just because the albums SOLD a ton and the prior lineups albums didn't, doesn't mean the non-hit material was over all any better than Fleetwood Mac had done earlier. For me, there's less "filler" on pre-Rumours era albums than on FMac albums between '75-87.

There's less filler on the 9 pre-rumors era albums than the 5 Rumours era albums? Either the one era has almost no filler or the other one is full of it then.

[Dex]

Originally Posted by chiliD

No more "up & down" than the Rumours-era material. Just because the albums SOLD a ton and the prior lineups albums didn't, doesn't mean the non-hit material was over all any better than Fleetwood Mac had done earlier. For me, there's less "filler" on pre-Rumours era albums than on FMac albums between '75-87.

*shrugs* I didn't even mention sales, nor would I have, but ok. To me, the first three Rumours-era albums are perfect no-filler albums, (although personally I don't like all the songs on any of them) and I can't say the same for most of the Bob Welch-era albums (I have a soft spot for Bare Trees especially, but, that final track?). Mirage and Tango surely do have their patchy moments, and if the Rumours-lineup was judged mostly on those, they'd probably get written off by a lot of people too, and I'd say as much.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

There's less filler on the 9 pre-rumors era albums than the 5 Rumours era albums? Either the one era has almost no filler or the other one is full of it then.

To my ears...yes.

[SteveMacD]

Meh...

We need a new record. There's really no justification for a new comp at this point. Just reissue "Mirage" and "Tango..." with bonus tracks (i.e. b-sides) and leave it at that. I'd be WAAAYYYY more excited with a Bob Welch-era "Vaudeville Years" than another comp. We need that!

[windbecame]

Personally? I'd like a whole new box set... but more importantly.... I'd like the songs labelled right - alternate mix, outtake, whatever... I still can't believe the botched job on "The Chain" ?????

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by windbecame

Personally? I'd like a whole new box set... but more importantly.... I'd like the songs labelled right - alternate mix, outtake, whatever... I still can't believe the botched job on "The Chain" ?????

I like how the first track on Disc 4 is labeled "I Believe My Time Ain't Long", which was the first single. Except, they put "Dust My Broom" from "Mr. Wonderful" on there. Same lyrics, but very different arrangements.