'75 Fleetwood Mac - Rate the Non-Hits - Page 3

MacShadowsBall · #31 02-05-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

I think we should remove any song that charted (and add back in any ones that didn't).

If it didn't chart, it wasn't a "hit," so to speak. Get my drift?

And I think an exception should be made for Landslide, due to it's glaring popularity and the fact that other versions of the song have charted...

Well according to Fleetwood Mac's discography wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac_discography, the 3 songs(singles) that charted are Over My Head, Say You Love Me, and Rhiannon. So yeah we can remove those three and keep the rest.

I understand about Landslide being a hit 20 years later, but we start to enter a slippery-slope is we discredit more that just the charting songs as non-hits.

Also Lindsey only really had 3 charting hits so this contest would be extremely filled with Lindsey songs. Nevermind the headache Rumours will have as The Chain and Gold Dust Woman weren't charted "hits" while Dreams and Don't Stop were yet they are not much of anybody's favorites here.

~~~~I want everybody's opinions about this as I make a final decision tomorrow.

**mylittledemon** · #32 02-05-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

I honestly don't know WTF is going on here.

LOL, I was kinda referring to MacShadows comment (post 21) that we weren't really talking about singles, but rather non-hits.

KarmaContestant · #33 02-05-2012, 11:09 PM

Warm Ways - 6

Over My Head - 8

Sugar Daddy - 10

World Turning - 10

I'm So Afraid - 9

Blue Letter - 6

Crystal - 6

Landslide - 10

holidayroad · #34 02-06-2012, 04:05 AM

Warm Ways 5
I liked it more when I was younger. Maybe I've just listened to it for too long.

Over My Head 5
A good song, I like it better than SYLM.

Sugar Daddy 6
Peppy. A good idea for a song. It's good to see Chris having fun with it.

World Turning 5
The first part is great. The non vocal part is Way too long.

I'm So Afraid 8
A powerful, emotional song. In the past, Lindsey has not always been the best at lyric writing, but he nailed it with this song.

Blue Letter 6
Good song with good energy

Crystal 8
Beautifully written song made even more beautiful by Lindsey's wonderful vocal.

Landslide 5
Another song I liked better when I was younger. It's been overdone in the last few years.

jcalzaretta · #35 02-06-2012, 07:10 AM

Warm Ways - 4

Over My Head - 10

Sugar Daddy - 2

World Turning - 9

I'm So Afraid - 9

Blue Letter - 6

Crystal - 9

Landslide - 10

CADreaming · #36 02-06-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by elle

agree with that, and this is what wikipedia page i posted earlier says about [other versions of] Landslide charting:

""Landslide" was eventually released as a single in the USA in 1998 after it became one of the most popular tracks from the live reunion album The Dance. It reached #51 on the Billboard Hot 100.[11] "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac_(1975_album)

The '75 version was not released as a single. Listen to the two versions back to back - so different. If we're going by album then the '75 version would not be constituted as a hit. Same thing with Silver Springs -- it was technically released as the B side of GYOW but wasn't a hit until The Dance.

I think a hit is anything that was released as a single and charted high. You can't call something a hit that only charted below the Top 20, unless we're just going by fan favorites and we're all so biased here... lol

ButterCookie · #37 02-06-2012, 11:29 AM

Warm Ways - 8

Over My Head - 9

Sugar Daddy -10

World Turning - 7

I'm So Afraid - 4

Blue Letter - 7

Crystal - 5

Landslide - 7

MacShadowsBall · #38 02-06-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

The '75 version was not released as a single. Listen to the two versions back to back - so different. If we're going by album then the '75 version would not be constituted as a hit. Same thing with Silver Springs -- it was technically released as the B side of GYOW but wasn't a hit until The Dance.

Yes we're definitely going by the original album versions and nothing more. So yeah 3 hit singles and Landslide was not one of them. Good point made about Silver Springs. We aren't judging any live versions. Choice C was for favorite live performance yet it only received 6 votes. People want to do live versions then they should have voted for that option.

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

I think a hit is anything that was released as a single and charted high. You can't call something a hit that only charted below the Top 20, unless we're just going by fan favorites and we're all so biased here... lol

Sounds perfect to me. We can remove the top 20 singles and nothing more.

'75 Fleetwood Mac - Over My Head, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me

Rumours - Go Your Own Way, Don't Stop, Dreams, You Make Loving Fun

Tusk - Tusk, Sara, Think About Me

Mirage - Hold Me, Gypsy

Tango in the Night - Big Love, Seven Wonders, Little Lies, Everywhere

Save Me from Behind the Mask were their only Post-Rumours hit, while no other post Dance songs fit the criteria as a album hit.

HomerMcvie · #39 02-06-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Mirage - Hold Me, Gypsy

I had to double check you for Love in Store, but it peaked at 22.

MacShadowsBall · #40 02-06-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I had to double check you for Love in Store, but it peaked at 22.

Yeah, it'll be non-hit. What about "Oh Diane"? It was hit overseas but not here in America.

CADreaming · #41 02-06-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Yeah, it'll be non-hit. What about "Oh Diane"? It was hit overseas but not here in America.

Oh that's a good point didn't consider UK charts. If it wasn't a US hit then it still is a "non hit" by default -FM was technically a US band for this era.

McTrouble · #42 02-06-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

Oh that's a good point didn't consider UK charts. If it wasn't a US hit then it still is a "non hit" by default -FM was technically a US band for this era.

I can't really agree with this - they were huge over here and 3 out of the 5 of them Brits!

CADreaming · #43 02-06-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by McTrouble

I can't really agree with this - they were huge over here and 3 out of the 5 of them Brits!

But they were based out of LA since what-'72? and the two front people were Americans, no disrespect intended to their roots or the UK fans. Just putting in my thoughts for the contest...

McTrouble · #44 02-06-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

But they were based out of LA since what-'72? and the two front people were Americans, no disrespect intended to their roots or the UK fans. Just putting in my thoughts for the contest...

Oh - do we over here still have a right to take part then?

Silver Springs · #45 02-06-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

But they were based out of LA since what-'72? and the two front people were Americans, no disrespect intended to their roots or the UK fans. Just putting in my thoughts for the contest...

It doesn't matter where they were based. Their roots were British. You can't escape your roots, so of course they were still heavily influenced by them. They're "managed" by an Englishman, had an English front lady and writer until '97 and have an English base player. They were always by a majority a UK band. Even now, they're half a UK band. You can't just discount it completely and say they're not a UK band, because that's not strictly true.