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Old 01-04-2014, 11:00 PM
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even with FM, in Vegas, nobody knew they were in town. banner lights on MGM were mostly showcasing David Copperfield and Cher . my husband was in a casino across the street while i was at FM show and started talking to some people who were shocked to hear that FM is in town and said they loved LB and would definitely be at the show if they knew.

all "now happening in vegas" magazines barely had some miniature add for their show that even i could barely see, when really searching for it, while everybody else had half page displays.
This silence should help things out on Wednesday. Mike in NV put your running shoes on.

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Old 01-16-2014, 12:13 PM
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I believe Lindsay himself is responsible for all of this.2 reasons-I feel he is very egotistical and he thinks he is God when he walks onstage and also just to rub his popularity in Stevie's face.This is typical behavior from someone who is as passive-aggrssive as he is IMO.A great guitarist yes.A TRULY nice guy no(IMO).
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:38 PM
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I believe Lindsay himself is responsible for all of this.2 reasons-I feel he is very egotistical and he thinks he is God when he walks onstage and also just to rub his popularity in Stevie's face.This is typical behavior from someone who is as passive-aggrssive as he is IMO.A great guitarist yes.A TRULY nice guy no(IMO).
I'm actually sure that he's behind it.. but I'm willing to bet it's simply because he enjoys the admiration of beautiful, young women- like most men.
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Old 01-16-2014, 10:14 PM
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I believe Lindsay himself is responsible for all of this.2 reasons-I feel he is very egotistical and he thinks he is God when he walks onstage and also just to rub his popularity in Stevie's face.This is typical behavior from someone who is as passive-aggrssive as he is IMO.A great guitarist yes.A TRULY nice guy no(IMO).
How can he rub that in her face? She's more popular than he is any way you slice it.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:13 PM
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a different way to look at this, perhaps?

excerpt from Billy Joel's recent interview discussing ticket scalping:

These guys are all road dogs, all veterans, they've been doing it for years and years, they've worked for everybody. There' a good spirit on this tour, and good morale is really important. We never sell front rows, we hold those tickets at just about every concert. For years, the scalpers got the tickets and would scalp the front row for ridiculous amounts of money. Our tickets are cheap, under $100, some in the $80s, the highest is about $150. I'd look down and see rich people sitting there, I call 'em "gold chainers." Sitting there puffing on a cigar, "entertain me, piano man." They don't stand up, make noise, sit there with their bouffant haired girlfriend lookin' like a big shot. I kinda got sick of that, who the hell are these people, where are the real fans? It turns out the real fans were always in the back of the room in the worst seats. We now hold those tickets, and I send my road crew out to the back of the room when the audience comes in and they get people from the worst seats and bring 'em in to the front rows. This way you've got people in the front row that are really happy to be there, real fans. We've tried to figure out how to beat the scalpers for years and years, hold off selling until the last minute, the wristband thing, limiting the amount of tickets people can get. You can't fight that secondary market. There used to be anti-scalping laws and they let them lapse from the books. My theory is there's a lot of tax revenue in those secondary ticket markets, these guys selling tickets for $500 to $1,000 gotta pay tax on it, and a lot more goes to government than there would be based on my ticket prices. So why should they enforce the scalping laws. We don't want to play to big shots, I want to play to younger people, people who can only afford a low ticket price. They make the best audience, they make the most noise, they're the most enthusiastic. It's just hard to get to them any more. I tell the audience every night, "I hope you didn't pay more than face value on that ticket, because we ain't worth more than that, and you ain't gonna get any more than that."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...den?page=0%2C1
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:16 PM
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a different way to look at this, perhaps?

excerpt from Billy Joel's recent interview discussing ticket scalping:

These guys are all road dogs, all veterans, they've been doing it for years and years, they've worked for everybody. There' a good spirit on this tour, and good morale is really important. We never sell front rows, we hold those tickets at just about every concert. For years, the scalpers got the tickets and would scalp the front row for ridiculous amounts of money. Our tickets are cheap, under $100, some in the $80s, the highest is about $150. I'd look down and see rich people sitting there, I call 'em "gold chainers." Sitting there puffing on a cigar, "entertain me, piano man." They don't stand up, make noise, sit there with their bouffant haired girlfriend lookin' like a big shot. I kinda got sick of that, who the hell are these people, where are the real fans? It turns out the real fans were always in the back of the room in the worst seats. We now hold those tickets, and I send my road crew out to the back of the room when the audience comes in and they get people from the worst seats and bring 'em in to the front rows. This way you've got people in the front row that are really happy to be there, real fans. We've tried to figure out how to beat the scalpers for years and years, hold off selling until the last minute, the wristband thing, limiting the amount of tickets people can get. You can't fight that secondary market. There used to be anti-scalping laws and they let them lapse from the books. My theory is there's a lot of tax revenue in those secondary ticket markets, these guys selling tickets for $500 to $1,000 gotta pay tax on it, and a lot more goes to government than there would be based on my ticket prices. So why should they enforce the scalping laws. We don't want to play to big shots, I want to play to younger people, people who can only afford a low ticket price. They make the best audience, they make the most noise, they're the most enthusiastic. It's just hard to get to them any more. I tell the audience every night, "I hope you didn't pay more than face value on that ticket, because we ain't worth more than that, and you ain't gonna get any more than that."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...den?page=0%2C1

Love it. I almost posted about this sort of thing in the Fan Confessions thread. It's true too, most of the people I've seen up front are the sugar daddy type trying to impress their younger girl (and impress everyone else [look at how much money I have! Look! Are you looking yet?? Validate me!]), or older people trying to avoid the riff-raff
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:13 PM
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a different way to look at this, perhaps?

excerpt from Billy Joel's recent interview discussing ticket scalping:

These guys are all road dogs, all veterans, they've been doing it for years and years, they've worked for everybody. There' a good spirit on this tour, and good morale is really important. We never sell front rows, we hold those tickets at just about every concert. For years, the scalpers got the tickets and would scalp the front row for ridiculous amounts of money. Our tickets are cheap, under $100, some in the $80s, the highest is about $150. I'd look down and see rich people sitting there, I call 'em "gold chainers." Sitting there puffing on a cigar, "entertain me, piano man." They don't stand up, make noise, sit there with their bouffant haired girlfriend lookin' like a big shot. I kinda got sick of that, who the hell are these people, where are the real fans? It turns out the real fans were always in the back of the room in the worst seats. We now hold those tickets, and I send my road crew out to the back of the room when the audience comes in and they get people from the worst seats and bring 'em in to the front rows. This way you've got people in the front row that are really happy to be there, real fans. We've tried to figure out how to beat the scalpers for years and years, hold off selling until the last minute, the wristband thing, limiting the amount of tickets people can get. You can't fight that secondary market. There used to be anti-scalping laws and they let them lapse from the books. My theory is there's a lot of tax revenue in those secondary ticket markets, these guys selling tickets for $500 to $1,000 gotta pay tax on it, and a lot more goes to government than there would be based on my ticket prices. So why should they enforce the scalping laws. We don't want to play to big shots, I want to play to younger people, people who can only afford a low ticket price. They make the best audience, they make the most noise, they're the most enthusiastic. It's just hard to get to them any more. I tell the audience every night, "I hope you didn't pay more than face value on that ticket, because we ain't worth more than that, and you ain't gonna get any more than that."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...den?page=0%2C1
I believe Neil Diamond does the same thing. Nothing new it's just the way Fleetwood Mac does it that's questionable.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:02 PM
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It's great what Billy Joel does and had to say, but I don't think it's exactly the same case here. I've personally seen this go down at 2 different shows last tour, and all of the fans that were brought up were young females. Not to say they weren't "real fans", but there definitely seems to be a type and gender they select.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:39 AM
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For those of us that are standing right by the stage at most of these shows - and we all know who we are - it would be incorrect to say that we are not enthusiastic and huge fans!
I have been to many shows of other artists where the people in front are not true fans of the artist and I would not want them up there if I was playing - but being that that is not the case here - it is truly annoying when females whose only qualifications seem to be age and appearance are put in front of fans.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:36 AM
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Oh, I love Billy Joel. That is awesome that he does that. I've seen him once, good show. That is a shame that FM doesn't do this.

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Old 08-08-2014, 09:53 AM
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For those of us that are standing right by the stage at most of these shows - and we all know who we are - it would be incorrect to say that we are not enthusiastic and huge fans!
I have been to many shows of other artists where the people in front are not true fans of the artist and I would not want them up there if I was playing - but being that that is not the case here - it is truly annoying when females whose only qualifications seem to be age and appearance are put in front of fans.
I agree. But I have seen it happen at Vegas shows and it's super annoying. People in the front are high stakes gamblers that are given comped tickets from the casino. Most of them just sit there with their arms crossed.
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:09 PM
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And I'd like to say that sitting there with your arms crossed does not necessarily mean you aren't an extremely hardcore fan. Enthusiasm can take many forms.

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I saw this happening last night. That same security guard brought up a group of young women from who knows where and plopped them down right in front of Lindsey. They wouldn't allow anyone else up that close, even people in rows 3-10, but I guess that doesn't matter if you're a young and conventionally attractive woman.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:22 AM
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I saw this happening last night. That same security guard brought up a group of young women from who knows where and plopped them down right in front of Lindsey. They wouldn't allow anyone else up that close, even people in rows 3-10, but I guess that doesn't matter if you're a young and conventionally attractive woman.
Wow. is Lindsey really that insecure?
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:23 AM
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With Billy Joel, it's nearly impossible to get to the front unless you're a young attractive female, or the boyfriend of 1. I've seen Billy 4 times, flying over the New York to see him again next month. and you can't get to the stage unless you are in the first few rows, so unless the real fans are all young attractive females, then i'm not sure it works! Still, at least he's honest about it. He states that it "doesn't hurt the show!" Fleetwood Mac has a fairly dynamic front of the stage at least!
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