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Old 06-30-2010, 07:08 PM
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I wasn't defending anything....I'm more of a prosecutor.

Just yankin' yo' chain. I was just being "full o' crap". Just trying to get a response. "Let's see what happens if I jab with this stick" kinda thing.

Like the Monty Python skit: "Uh....I'd like to have an argument please...."

"No it isn't"

"Yes it is"

"No it isn't"

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I wasn't defending anything....I'm more of a prosecutor.

Just yankin' yo' chain. I was just being "full o' crap". Just trying to get a response. "Let's see what happens if I jab with this stick" kinda thing.

Like the Monty Python skit: "Uh....I'd like to have an argument please...."

"No it isn't"

"Yes it is"

"No it isn't"


Thanks for making me feel like Dr. Temperance Brennan, while you're Seeley Booth. (Netflix turned me into a "Bones" fan)


"Thank YOU Bicycle Repair Man!"

"My hovercraft is full of eels."

"'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!! " haha


This is my favorite MPFC sketch, it's a mockumentary on a boxer named Ken Clean Air Systems;


"Every morning, he jogs the forty-seven miles from his two-bedroomed, eight-bathroom, six-up-two-down, three-to-go-house in Reigate, to the Government's Pesticide Research Centre at Shoreham. Nobody knows why."

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Thanks for making me feel like Dr. Temperance Brennan, while you're Seeley Booth. (Netflix turned me into a "Bones" fan)
I like to think of myself as a blues guitarist version of Jack Hodgins.
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I like to think of myself as a blues guitarist version of Jack Hodgins.
So you like to be left for dead somewhere in a southwest desert by Billy Gibbons after you (Jack Hodgins) broke it off with his daughter Angela? You know Billy was/is a Peter Green fan, how great is that?
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:38 AM
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So you like to be left for dead somewhere in a southwest desert by Billy Gibbons after you (Jack Hodgins) broke it off with his daughter Angela? You know Billy was/is a Peter Green fan, how great is that?
Oh, of course! But, if you'd seen the last season's ending episode, Jack & Angela ride off into the sunset together.

Just listen to:

Brown Sugar
Just Got Back From Baby's
Blue Jean Blues
Asleep In The Desert (basically a Tex-Mex version of "Oh Well, Part 2")

Any of those it would hard to distinguish Rev Willy from Peter Green's playing.
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Oh, of course! But, if you'd seen the last season's ending episode, Jack & Angela ride off into the sunset together.

Just listen to:

Brown Sugar
Just Got Back From Baby's
Blue Jean Blues
Asleep In The Desert (basically a Tex-Mex version of "Oh Well, Part 2")

Any of those it would hard to distinguish Rev Willy from Peter Green's playing.
I tried to watch "Bones" last season without the background of the previous seasons (since "Fringe" now follows "Bones", a show I've watched since the very first ep.). Without the backstory of Dr. T. Brennan, the show doesn't make sense even in season five.

Now that I've seen the previous four seasons', I understand everything. I've only seen a handful of eps. from season five, I will gladly buy season five on DVD in October. I'm aware of Jack and Angela are back together. At least we haven't seen the last of Mr. Gibbons on "Bones".



What makes this show work is that the writers know if Bones, and Booth actually "hook up" it's completely over. If anyone remembers "Moonlighting", or "Cheers", you kill the tension, and the fans get bored. I think the two will eventually become a couple, when the writers, and producers decide to end the show.
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Old 07-20-2010, 10:42 AM
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I have been thinking a lot today about Fleetwood Mac, rather Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and more specifically Danny Kirwan, who along with Scott Walker (more on this to come soon!) is my current vintage crush. I'm such a sucker for a pair of baby blues poking out from under a floppy fringe. Danny is said to have been an emotional, quite neurotic young man at the time, and was so inspired when playing it would bring him to tears. Forget the weeping though, I do like a chap in a nice tight sweater! I wish I could have found some better pics...

Danny's story is though a rather sad one, after leaving the band in the early 70s and releasing a couple of solo albums he sadly succumbed to the all to familiar downward spiral of alcoholism and has spent the last 30 odd years living in homeless shelters, he was last tracked down a few years ago to a specialist alcoholics clinic in South London.

Like Crying is my favourite song of his and it's been in my head all day, and pretty much sums up how I have been feeling today. I usually feel super depressed on my birthday but this year I was rather cheerful for this first time in years, I think actually the b'day blues have been delayed a week and they've really got to me today.

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Old 07-23-2010, 08:06 AM
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Review of the Fleetwood Mac CD Then Play On

The exceptionally talented Rock group Fleetwood Mac have released their CD entitled Then Play On. I am very confident and happy to announce that I believe Fleetwood Mac fans, and Rock fans alike will be pleased with this one. With the release of Then Play On their artistic excellence is on full display as they have once again delivered a brilliant collection of tracks that could very well be their best work to date.

I wish it werenít the case but, itís not everyday that I get a CD for review that I can just pop in and comfortably listen to from beginning to end. There is usually a song or two that I just canít force myself to get through. Not at all the case with Then Play On. Every track is enjoyable and was pretty easy for me to listen to from start to finish.

These days itís a very rare CD on which every single song is good or better than the one before it. This CD is certainly one of those rare CDs.

If youíre a Fleetwood Mac fan this is a CD your collection flat cannot be without. In fact, this is one of those CDs that you donít even have to be a fan of lname, or even Rock to know is good. Itís just good music. Period.

While this entire album is really very good the truly standout tunes are track 1 Ė Coming Your Way, track 7 Ė Although The Sun Is Shining, and track 13 Ė Before The Beginning.

My Bonus Pick, and the one that got Sore [...as in "Stuck On REpeat"] is track 13 Ė Before The Beginning. Great track!

Then Play On Release Notes:

Fleetwood Mac originally released Then Play On on October 25, 1990 on the Reprise label.

CD Track List Follows:

1. Coming Your Way

2. Closing My Eyes

3. Show-Biz Blues

4. My Dream

5. Underway

6. Oh Well

7. Although The Sun Is Shining

8. Rattlesnake Shake

9. Searching For Madge

10. Fighting For Madge

11. When You Say

12. Like Crying

13. Before The Beginning

Fleetwood Mac: Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwin (vocals, guitar); John McVie (bass); Mick Fleetwood (drums). Additional personnel includes: Christine Perfect (background vocals).

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Old 07-23-2010, 08:20 AM
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Some Days, I Just Can't Help Myself
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Revisited

The Best Of The Boston Tea Party Tapes
Friday, July 23, 2010

Several people remarked last month about not only the quality of the playing, but also the fidelity of the recordings on the remastered 'Live In Boston' set that was captured during Fleetwood Mac's incredible three night run at the city's Boston Tea Party in early February of 1970. The tapes were intended for a live recording to captialize on the band's rising popularity here in the States, but were shelved when their leader, Peter Green left the band shortly after they were recorded. Subsequently, the masters sat in the vaults for years until a truncated version was officially released in 1985, and then remastered and re-released in their entirety in 2003.

Of course the Boston Tea Party recordings were widely bootlegged prior to any official release, and with noticably inferior sound. Today however, these recordings stand as the absolute best of the very few live recordings available from Peter Green's Original Fleetwood Mac. I have noted however that Wolfgang's Vault has a few Peter Green era shows available for streaming, but I've yet to hear them for a quality comparison.

As of 2010, the Boston Tea Party tapes have now been issued and reissued under a host of names, most of them variations on 'Boston Tea Party,' or 'Live In Boston.' And now there's one more, 'Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Revisited: The Best Of The Boston Tea Party Tapes.' This one you won't find in stores, or from traders. It's only available here because it was I who edited and condensed the three volume set down to one extraordinary 92 minute set. "But that's already been done," you might say. "And where's the 'Encore Jam' with Joe Walsh and Eric Clapton?" Well, the answer to the first question is, "Yes, it has been done. 'Boston Blues' is it's name." Here's that recordings track sequence:

1) Black Magic Woman
2) Like It This Way
3) Oh Well
4) Jumping At Shadows
5) Stranger Blues
6) Oh Baby
7) Got To Move
8) Rattlesnake Shake
9) World In Harmony
10) Sandy Mary
11) Loving Kind
12) Red Hot Mama
13) I Can't Hold Out
14) The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Pronged Crown)
15) Encore Jam


And now here's mine:

1) World In Harmony
2) Jumping At Shadows
3) Like It This Way
4) Only You
5) Loving Kind
6) Sandy Mary
7) Rattlesnake Shake
8) Stranger Blues
9) Oh Well
10) Madison Blues
11) Coming Your Way
12) Black Magic Woman
13) The Sun Is Shining
15) The Green Manalishi (With The Two Pronged-Crown)


Most of the same material, but a different running order. A set much like the one that is 'Boston Blues.' That is to say, one that never really transpired, at least not in these particular sequences. Through the magic of editing, a performance is rearranged so as to appear authentically correct. But if you weren't there to remember it (and who really would unless you were sitting there taking notes, at which point you'd immediately be singled out a possible Narcotics Agent and then shunned for the remainder of the evening, not to mention putting everyone around you uptight), then you'd never know the difference.

So getting back to the questions, my answer to the second would be, "Like 'blooze' and 'boogie,' jams are largely irrelavent, typically memorable only in the moment, but rarely thereafter." With regard to the aforementioned 'all-star' jam, imagine this if you will. After a smoldering set, Peter and the band are brought back on stage for an encore. In tow are Joe Walsh and Eric Clapton, a guitar players wet dream. The crowd goes ape ****. The excitement is palpable. Then picture the sound of vomit as played by one bass player, one drummer, and no less that five guitarists. That's the 'Encore Jam.' It's kinda' like that whole Y2K thing ten years ago. Everyone thought it would be armageddon and the world would end. But when the clock struck midnight, it all turned out to be a whole lotta' nothing. The ocean's didn't rise, the Earth didn't go off it's obit, bibles didn't need to be rewritten. It was just another day. That is the 'Encore Jam.' Trust me on this one, O.K.? You're not missing anything.

"So why bother redoing what's already been done," you ask? Good point. All I can say is simply because, "No.#1) I like Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, No.#2) I enjoy audio editing, and No.#3) I thought I could possibly do a better job than on 'Boston Blues,'" plain and simple. And I hope I'm right on that last one. You see, I figure if it were my band, I'd start out with a few low-key numbers just to get warmed up. You know, something to loosen up a bit to get rid of the opening night jitters. Sort of like putting the pot on the stovetop and bringing things to a slow simmer. Then I'd turn up the heat a little with some Danny Kirwan numbers before slipping into the heavy stuff where the juices are starting to flow and you're finally cooking on all four burners. That's why I reshuffled the set list and if I hadn't mentioned it to you, you'd likely accept it as a factual document. Sue me.

Since I'm bound to ruffle the feathers of a few purists out there, I've sweetened the deal by also including Fleetwood Mac's, 'Shrine '69,' recorded a year earlier at Santa Monica's Shrine Auditorium. It should make for a good comparison to the Boston Tea Party performances, although it too can stand on its own as a great document of the band's power during the Peter Green era. That's the deal. Take it, or leave it. But either way, enjoy it.

The Best Of The Boston Tea Party Tapes

1) World In Harmony
(from Volume Two)
2) Jumping At Shadows
(from Volume One)
3) Like It This Way
(from Volume One)
4) Only You
(from Volume One)
5) Loving Kind
(from Volume Three)
6) Sandy Mary
(from Volume Three)
7) Rattlesnake Shake
(from Volume Two)*
8) Stranger Blues
(from Volume Two)
9) Oh Well
(from Volume Two)
10) Madison Blues
(from Volume Three)
11) Coming Your Way
(from Volume Three)
12) Black Magic Woman
(from Volume One)
13) The Sun Is Shining
(from Volume Three)
14) The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Pronged Crown)
(from Volume One)

*The rendition of 'Rattlesnake Snake' on Volume One is actually a better performance, but it's faded out on the official recording. On the other hand, Volume Two's version is a complete one, thus it's inclusion here despite being the lesser performance of the two. I originally attempted merging the best of both into one giant Frankenstein track, but after seven unsuccessful tries, I decided that it wasn't worth reinventing the wheel. However, I've already done that, haven't I? Oh well.

Shrine '69

1) Tune Up
2) If You Be My Baby
3) Something Inside Of Me
4) My Sweet Baby
5) Albatross
6) Before The Beginning
7) Rollin' Man
8) Lemon Squeezer
9) Need Your Love So Bad

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I notice that on your list for shrine 69 you did not include the missing track "Blue Suade Shoes"

Since there are doubles to many of the tracks on the te4 party recordings, which ones did you choose besides rattlesnake shake?

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I notice that on your list for shrine 69 you did not include the missing track "Blue Suade Shoes"
It's not my list. It came from the web.
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Why does everyone miss the Vol. 3 version of "Jumping At Shadows"? It maybe the best single recorded track from the three nights in Boston. It's shorter than the other two, yet it defines in a 4:50 nutshell why Peter Green is so beloved today, at least by this poster.

The reason why Peter Green should stand out over his contemporaries, is his use of dynamics in a live setting. Pete Townshend, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, and Jerry Garcia were all using dynamics in a live setting at the time. Yet nothing approaches how Peter Green conducted Fleetwood Mac during the late winter/early spring of 1970.

Does anyone notice the "fade outs" of "Black Magic Woman" from Boston '70 are not studio fade-outs, but pure band discipline? No other band from the states, or the U.K. was doing that at the time. For years I thought The Who's "Live at Leeds" was a snapshot into the best live rock music ever made. I'm now convinced it's Peter Green with Fleetwood Mac from 1/70-5/28/70.


There's a stray Boston "Black Magic Woman" on the 2CD "Jumping At Shadows", it is the best version I've heard.
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I couldn't agree more, the night three version of Jumping At Shadows is the most intense, the most direct of the three nights. I like the other two as well, they are more intricate but there is a slight feeling of desperation about night three.

The version of Black Magic Woman with the live fade out has always been my favorite. I've been told that BMW was recorded on all three nights, and that the live fade out is actually night one from the Boston Tea-Party performances. The version that was released as night one, is in fact night two. There was also a night three, but it was scrapped due to tape damage juring the re-mastering process. I've looked and listened for other bands from that era or any, and I haven't yet found one that used a live fade out.
According to Peter's introduction, he had only performed the song live, twice before. This would have been pre-Kirwan, and as much as I like the Green-Kirwan jam versions of this song, I would have liked to hear how Peter played it live, alone, just after it was written.
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I couldn't agree more, the night three version of Jumping At Shadows is the most intense, the most direct of the three nights. I like the other two as well, they are more intricate but there is a slight feeling of desperation about night three.

The version of Black Magic Woman with the live fade out has always been my favorite. I've been told that BMW was recorded on all three nights, and that the live fade out is actually night one from the Boston Tea-Party performances. The version that was released as night one, is in fact night two. There was also a night three, but it was scrapped due to tape damage juring the re-mastering process. I've looked and listened for other bands from that era or any, and I haven't yet found one that used a live fade out.
According to Peter's introduction, he had only performed the song live, twice before. This would have been pre-Kirwan, and as much as I like the Green-Kirwan jam versions of this song, I would have liked to hear how Peter played it live, alone, just after it was written.
Since the Fleetwood Mac PR machine want to make us believe that Peter Green was lobotamized 3/70 in Munich, the "I've Got a Good Mind to Give Up Living" from Stockholm 4/1/70, and "Black Magic Woman", from the Roundhouse in London 4/24/70..Green's last live performance in London, didn't happen. Yet both performances are the best I've ever heard from ANY guitar player, including Jimi Hendrix . Now that the world has Youtube everything has changed.
If you love "Black Magic Woman", listen to this version....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaPWQkdJ2nI



This is the Stockholm version of "I've Got a Good Mind to Give Up Living". Come on dino, tell that isn't one of the best electric guitar solos of ALL TIME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ytgYYZuLs


Thanks for the clarification of BMW from Boston Evan. As for pre-Kirwan, there is that "Worried Dream" from San Francisco.(recorded by Bear, it sounds like an Owsley Stanley production, I'm only guessing but the "sound" of the recording says Bear) This is FM's first visit to the states on Youtube. It's certainly before Green did LSD, and is it ever intense!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57gogeTtZtQ

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