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Old 10-27-2018, 01:58 AM
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So I was listening to this amazing album today and realized the reason it only has 10 tracks is because Lindsey kept it open for 3 or 4 Stevie tracks. Oh what this album could have been......

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Old 10-27-2018, 03:43 AM
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So I was listening to this amazing album today and realized the reason it only has 10 tracks is because Lindsey kept it open for 3 or 4 Stevie tracks. Oh what this album could have been......
It's the best thing since Mirage! Old Goat Stank really screwed the final chapter of FM to the end, by not recording, firing Lindsey, and being a bitter old ass.

But i love me some BuckVie. I've not taken it out of my car rotation since it came out, June 9th of 17. Yes, I remember the date. I had 14 days to learn every song by heart, for the second show of the tour.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:06 AM
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Not that long ago I started fiddling with the track list and added Belle Fleur, Lady, The Dealer, If You Were My Love, and Sad Angel/Miss Fantasy to replace some Lindsey songs. 15 tracks may be a bit heavy, but it makes me happy.
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Not that long ago I started fiddling with the track list and added Belle Fleur, Lady, The Dealer, If You Were My Love, and Sad Angel/Miss Fantasy to replace some Lindsey songs. 15 tracks may be a bit heavy, but it makes me happy.


I like your additions but I would not replace any of Buckinghams songs from this album. His songs were so obviously open for Stevie’s contribution.
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:46 AM
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I've never cared for Lay Down For Free. It's too repetitious, and sounds like a drum machine, instead of Mick.
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I've never cared for Lay Down For Free. It's too repetitious, and sounds like a drum machine, instead of Mick.

Really? I know you said you have had it on repeat play since release so I can’t say “ Give it another listen” 😎 but....... I just love the vocals so I guess I most be a bit deaf to the drums.
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I've never cared for Lay Down For Free. It's too repetitious, and sounds like a drum machine, instead of Mick.
The weakest song on the album by a long shot.
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:56 AM
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Not that long ago I started fiddling with the track list and added Belle Fleur, Lady, The Dealer, If You Were My Love, and Sad Angel/Miss Fantasy to replace some Lindsey songs. 15 tracks may be a bit heavy, but it makes me happy.
To complete the sense of an album in your scenario, do you also imagine those songs played by Fleetwood Mac and arranged-orchestrated and mixed by the Mac team? To me, swapping tracks from other projects in and out doesn't give me that satisfying sense of a Mac album because a song is just a song, and Fleetwood Mac, as much as any other pop band, puts its sonic imprint on a song and singularizes it. Take If You Were My Love, for example. From Mirage outtake to 24K Gold, it just isn't even the same song. Profoundly different.

That's why I never cared which "song" got put on an album. What makes a Fleetwood Mac album sound like Fleetwood Mac is Fleetwood Mac's recording treatment of all those songs (also considering that they haven't always done cool things to songs). Long way of saying that what prevents Buckingham McVie from completely sounding like a Fleetwood Mac album is Stevie's singing, not her songs. A Fleetwood album has never been just a playlist, and a playlist is never a Fleetwood album. That idea of what Fleetwood Mac sounds like with Lindsey helping (or handling) production and arrangement is also at the heart of the disappointment with his departure. I like hearing The Chain played the way he played it with Mick drumming (particularly in 1978 and 1980), and that's now dead. That's what I missed in 1987 at the Forum, and that's what I miss today. The fact that The Chain is still part of today's set means nothing to me (just as it meant nothing to me as part of the 1990 set). The fact that Gold Dust Woman was part of the 1994 set meant nothing to me (other than a mild curiosity). I'm attracted (or not) to what I hear, not to the mere presence of something to pay tribute or fulfill a legacy or meet a marketing expectation. Of course, sometimes the cover job really does excite me based on what I hear: for example, I seem to recall hearing an old concert from the Welch years where Bob did Black Magic Woman. I loved it. Bob was ferociously good on guitar on that. (Did you guys ever hear that?) My two.
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It's the best thing since Mirage! Old Goat Stank really screwed the final chapter of FM to the end, by not recording, firing Lindsey, and being a bitter old ass.
Old Goat stank?? That' sooo funny! Even after the 784th time, it never gets old. You should be a comedian or something. Call Lorne Michaels, stat!

Seriously, it sounds like you're the bitter old ass.
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Old Goat stank?? That' sooo funny! Even after the 784th time, it never gets old. You should be a comedian or something. Call Lorne Michaels, stat!

Seriously, it sounds like you're the bitter old ass.
You're different tonight. Speculation has been...pointed out to me, that maybe you're...toying with....things.

Hope you're okay, Ed. I mean that.

And I'm bitter AF. They FIRED LINDSEY, the wife beater!!!

I'm gonna watch the Tusk doc outtakes now, and let it all go...Night, Ed.
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And I'm bitter AF. They FIRED LINDSEY, the wife beater!!!

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I'm gonna watch the Tusk doc outtakes now, and let it all go...Night, Ed.
There are outtakes to the Tusk documentary? Can anyone please link me to them or send them to me?
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There are outtakes to the Tusk documentary? Can anyone please link me to them or send them to me?
Someone sent me a DVD of it, about a decade ago. I'm not sure if they're on Youtube or not. Pretty interesting stuff, especially if you already know the Tusk doc. Some behind the scenes bitching, and eye rolls at others, $tevie in the studio...trying to tell them what $he wants a song to sound like...and NOBODY is listening to her, and $he's twirling her finger around the side of her head...to indicate that they're crazy, etc... It's a must have, for mega fans.
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There are outtakes to the Tusk documentary? Can anyone please link me to them or send them to me?
i've just seen them peppered all over youtube but i'd love to have all these in one place.

here's Angel-writing excerpt, Stevie and Lindsey working out the melody, that was taken from one of those youtube videos -

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So I was listening to this amazing album today and realized the reason it only has 10 tracks is because Lindsey kept it open for 3 or 4 Stevie tracks. Oh what this album could have been......
Given that she didn't show up I was more disappointed that they didn't find a few more Chris-led tracks to fill up the gaps. They must have had some kicking around given how much they were said to have been doing together.
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