Anyone believe in ghosts or after death communication?

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Macfan4life,
Dude, you know you don't really want to leave The Ledge. Don't even contemplate it. However I feel your frustration and and can't for the life of me fathom why on Earth a perfectly reasonable thread would be deleted in its entirety. As you say its just ridiculous.

I was going to post a comment on this subject myself but felt the need to use restraint and not say anything. Personally I think all mediums are con men. Even when you think there's absolutely no way they could have faked it...they probably have. They are like really, really good magicians; when you find out their method it seems so simple and makes you feel a bit stupid for not seeing through it first time.

With regards to the original thread starter; sorry, I cant remember your particular circumstances. However, there's probably a perfectly logical and rational explanation for something that initially appeared really strange. I'm sorry that's not what you want to hear. Mediums are scumbags and play on peoples' loss to earn their living...and they are good at it.

That is fine and you are entitled to your opinion to express it. I would have agreed with you until 4 years ago. Most are fake but when you find a real one, you will be convinced. I cant judge you for an experience that happened in your life and you cant judge me for an experience that happened in my life either. I was a huge skeptic but there is no doubt in my mind there is a spiritual life and some do have a 6th sense to see them and communicate with them. I have all the proof I need for sure. But my point is not to convince anyone. I was responding to a thread that I did not start and offered an explanation. BTW, how could you call Christine's mother a scum bag though I don't think its a coincidence that Stevie and Lindsey lived on Orange Grove. You can rationalize it anyway that you want.
Now back to topic. I think its childish that you cant discuss politics or religion in a chit chat part of a message board. Of course a few bad apples ruined the bunch. You ban those apples and allow mature people to debate and discuss freely.
What irks me is the insane policy was created strictly for this member and another one. One left on their own but the other still interrupts free discussion to condemn people to hell and use a very twisted version of "religion" to justify their beliefs. If its his thread that's fine. When you disrupt someone else's thread be ready for my response (which I did). Its just childish to delete and entire thread because of someone else's disruption when they invoked religion which is supposedly banned from topic and the thread had nothing to do with religion. Go figure. Obviously this guy gets special treatment because he contributed to the Ledge. As silly as the rules are, lets ALL play by them. Its like suspending an entire class because one child did something wrong

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

BTW, how could you call Christine's mother a scum bag though I don't think its a coincidence that Stevie and Lindsey lived on Orange Grove. You can rationalize it anyway that you want.

No, I'm not calling her a scumbag. I've never met her. I'm sure there is a rational explanation though. Probably something was lost in translation/embellished somewhere along the lines. I'm not sure I totally believe anything any of the FM members say.
Do I believe she can communicate with dead people in order to predict things that will occur in the distant future? No

Edit: However, if having belief in some sort of supernatural/spirituality is of comfort to some people, then fair enough. Each to their own.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

No, I'm not calling her a scumbag. I've never met her. I'm sure there is a rational explanation though. Probably something was lost in translation/embellished somewhere along the lines. I'm not sure I totally believe anything any of the FM members say.
Do I believe she can communicate with dead people in order to predict things that will occur in the distant future? No

Edit: However, if having belief in some sort of supernatural/spirituality is of comfort to some people, then fair enough. Each to their own.

I don't see Christine making up such a story. She has been very open about her mother and how she missed having a traditional mom. In 1990 on Rockline this was discussed and how her mother told her someday she would find something life changing in an Orange Grove. There was speculation the cover of the Greatest Hits package was an Orange Blossom. The host asked if she ever found something in an orange grove and Chris stated "Stevie and Lindsey." Everyone laughed but Stevie was even more revealing explaining that is where her and Lindsey used to live. Its a very detailed and specific thing to say to someone especially in England. I don't think there are any Orange Groves over there. My point is simple, me nor anyone is trying to convince anyone of anything. But when someone gets some sort of a message and asks a question, its ok for someone to reveal deeply personal stuff to help them understand. It should not be mocked in any way even if someone does not believe. As I mentioned before, I was the same way until I was proven to be wrong. It needed to happen to me before I would believe. I was a skeptic the entire time until it was over.
So we will end it there

[FuzzyPlum]

Certainly not mocking anyone. A thread was started on a topic and responses were solicited. Just throwing in my opinion which is an urge for caution and the need to think rationally. People can't see logical explanations but they are almost certainly there somewhere.
We will end it there