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Old 08-30-2002, 10:06 PM
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Post Re-arranging The Mac....

For a good many years, I listened to Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours-Era & Beyond" albums exactly the way they were released... but I always kind of felt that the running orders left a bit to be desired. I had to agree with critics who said that The Mac's albums sometimes sounded too fragmented, and weren't "unified."

Now don't get me wrong, I love the fact that Christine, Lindsey & Stevie each have such disctinctive styles, and I think that lends Fleetwood Mac's music an incredible amount of variety... but I feel that the running orders do a disservice to the albums on a whole (and to many of the songs within), causing them to sometimes sound uneven.

'Tusk' for instance... how many people have said that they initially had a hard time getting into Lindsey's songs on that album? Stevie & Christine's songs are pretty "traditional," so when one of Lindsey's tunes comes on, it can be a bit jarring. Not to mention the fact that Lindsey & Stevie's songs dominate an extremely long stretch of the CD.
And then there's 'Tango In The Night'... sure, Stevie's presence on the album is unfortunately limited, but the running order only exacerbates this fact: "Seven Wonders" is the second track on the album, followed by six Lindsey & Christine songs, and then boom, Stevie's other two contributions pretty much come one right after the other, and the album is over.

So, over the years, I have taken my time and gone back thru each of the albums from 1975 onward. I arranged all of them so that each singer/songwriter is (I feel) well-represented throughout the entire album. I painstakingly (some would say "obssessively" ) sequenced the tracks so that they're each complimentary of what comes before them and after them... all the while trying to set moods and sustain them, and then creating new ones.
Some, like 'Tango In The Night,' I felt I "got right" from the get-go... others, like 'Behind The Mask,' took some time until I was pleased.

The re-arranged orders are pretty much the only way I listen to the albums now... in fact, I even burned copies of each, so that I wouldn't have to program the CD player every time I played them.

I'm not sure what anyone here will think of them, but I've shared them with some friends, and they all seemed to prefer the re-sequencings... so I figured some other Ledgies might want to give them a spin.
And, if you do, please let me know what you think!

(By the way, the running order for 'Time' is largely chiliD's, which he had posted on the original Ledge boards a few years ago... I just tweaked the order of a couple tracks. Hope he doesn’t mind!)


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FLEETWOOD MAC:
1. Monday Morning
2. Sugar Daddy
3. Blue Letter
4. Rhiannon
5. Say You Love Me
6. Crystal
7. Over My Head
8. Landslide
9. World Turning
10. Warm Ways
11. I’m So Afraid

RUMOURS:
1. The Chain
2. Second Hand News
3. Dreams
4. Oh Daddy
5. Go Your Own Way
6. Silver Springs
7. Don't Stop
8. I Don't Want To Know
9. You Make Loving Fun
10. Never Going Back Again
11. Gold Dust Woman
12. Songbird

TUSK:
1. Tusk
2. Think About Me
3. Angel
4. Save Me A Place
5. Over & Over
6. That’s All For Everyone
7. Storms
8. Not That Funny
9. Brown Eyes
10. The Ledge
11. Sara
12. That’s Enough For Me
13. Honey Hi
14. Walk A Thin Line
15. Sisters Of The Moon
16. What Makes You Think You’re The One
17. Never Make Me Cry
18. I Know I’m Not Wrong
19. Beautiful Child
20. Never Forget

MIRAGE:
1. Hold Me
2. Book Of Love
3. That’s Alright
4. Oh Diane
5. Only Over You
6. Gypsy
7. Can’t Go Back
8. Love In Store
9. Empire State
10. Straight Back
11. Eyes Of The World
12. Wish You Were Here

TANGO IN THE NIGHT:
1. Big Love
2. Everywhere
3. Seven Wonders
4. Caroline
5. Little Lies
6. Tango In The Night
7. Welcome To The Room... Sara
8. Mystified
9. Family Man
10. Isn’t It Midnight
11. When I See You Again
12. You And I, Part II

BEHIND THE MASK:
1. In The Back Of My Mind
2. Save Me
3. No Questions Asked
4. Stand On The Rock
5. When It Comes To Love
6. Freedom
7. Hard Feelings
8. Behind The Mask
9. Love Is Dangerous
10. As Long As You Follow
11. Affairs Of The Heart
12. When The Sun Goes Down
13. Do You Know
14. Skies The Limit
15. The Second Time
16. Lizard People (***optional***)

TIME:
1. I Do
2. Talkin’ To My Heart
3. I Wonder Why
4. Winds of Change
5. Sooner Or Later
6. Dreamin’ The Dream
7. These Strange Times
8. Nights In Estoril
9. Nothing Without You
10. Hollywood (Some Other Kind Of Town)
11. Blow By Blow
12. I Got It In For You
13. All Over Again


(I just made a disc gathering up the "left-overs"... non-LP b-sides, demos, one-offs, and the like... so I thought i'd share the track-listing of that one too)

RARITIES:
1. Paper Doll
2. Bleed To Love Her
3. Love Shines
4. Sweet Girl
5. Goodbye Angel
6. Temporary One
7. Fireflies
8. Cool Water
9. One More Night
10. The Farmer’s Daughter
11. My Little Demon
12. Smile At You
13. Ricky
14. Down Endless Street
15. Joan Of Arc
16. Heart Of Stone
17. Make Me A Mask
18. If You Were My Love
19. Can’t Help Falling In Love
20. You And I, Part I
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Old 08-31-2002, 02:19 AM
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dude..... dude.... you are too right... i haven't listened to these yet in your order... but sitting here reading through your song orders has just totally hit me in the head... especially tusk which really as you say is hard sometimes to get into because it is sometimes jarring.... but you totally sequenced things how they really needed to be... i'm too excited for this i need to go listen in these orders now... especially tusk... i might actually get all the way through it without skipping around!! thanks for your hard work!
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Old 08-31-2002, 03:00 AM
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Wink what would stevie think?

stevie has mentioned in interviews that she was responsible for sequencing the fleetowood mac albums...a fact she was very much proud of!
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Old 08-31-2002, 12:21 PM
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Thumbs up Stevie Sequencing

From what I recall, the only album she sequenced for Fleetwood Mac was
Rumours? Also I believe the limitations of vinyl/LP's/records might've had
something to do with the running order of Rumours/Tusk & Mirage?
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Old 08-31-2002, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Stevie Sequencing

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Originally posted by celestenadia
I believe the limitations of vinyl/LP's/records might've had
something to do with the running order of Rumours/Tusk & Mirage?
True, true... but I tried to arrange the re-sequencings so that they could be pretty easily split into halves (or, in the case of 'Tusk,' into fourths).

And you're right, I think 'Rumours' is the only Mac album that Stevie arranged the running order for.


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Old 08-31-2002, 04:03 PM
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Wink hehe

Thank you Johnny. Where's my gold star?
The Stevie sequencing tidbit would make a good
trivia question!
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Default Tusk as a single album

TUSK (as a single album):

Honey Hi
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Brown Eyes
Sisters Of The Moon
Tusk
Never Forget

Angel
What Make You Think You're The One
Think About Me
Walk A Thin Line
Sara
Over & Over
That's Enough For Me
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Old 01-03-2003, 09:51 PM
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This is chiliD's running order for 'Time,' which I wrote down from the old Ledge four or five years ago....

1. I Do
2. Talkin' To My Heart
3. I Wonder Why
4. Winds Of Change
5. Sooner Or Later
6. Dreamin' The Dream
7. Nights In Estoril
8. Nothing Without You
9. I Got It In For You
10. Hollywood (Some Other Kind Of Town)
11. Blow By Blow
12. These Strange Times
13. All Over Again
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I agree man! I think "Over & Over" should be dropped down and have "The Ledge" as an opener followed by "Think About Me."
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