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Live 1980 Album - Retracked
I've always enjoyed the 1980 live double album, however I can't help but wonder how much more epic it would have been if the track listing had been different. First, I would have not added any of the new studio tracks - only live cuts. Secondly, I would have focussed more on the best live songs the Mac had at the time, many of which were not included. Here would be my ideal list:
Side A 01. Monday Morning 02. Say You Love Me 03. Dreams 04. The Chain 05. Oh Well 06. Over & Over Side B 01. Tusk 02. Sara 03. Why 04. Never Going Back Again 05. Landslide 06. Gold Dust Woman Side C 01. Over My Head 02. Rhiannon 03. Second Hand News 04. Don't Let Me Down Again 05. Sisters Of The Moon Side D 01. You Make Loving Fun 02. Don't Stop 03. Go Your Own Way 04. I'm So Afraid 05. Songbird What would your ideal 1980 Live look like?
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Firelies, Farmer's Daughter, and Oh Well made the album special - it gave us something new. LIVE was somewhat unconventional because it wasn't a straight shot live show, but tracks from different shows.
Oh Well aside, Firelies, One More Night and Farmer's Daughter have ever been in the set list up to that time. Dreams and Don't Stop were rehearsals, and a few of the tracks are from the Rumours era. I assume that they have the rest of the live recordings from the Tusk tour in the can. It would be great if they if they released an expanded version of LIVE with all the outtakes. One issue of concern is congruity; many of the tracks on the album were sweetened up in the studio. I wonder if the outtakes got the same treatment, or were they left in their original form. I'd love a live collection that features all the prior Mac/related songs they initially performed early on when Lindsey and Stevie first joined. Get Like You Used to Be Station Man Green Manalishi Sunny Side of Heaven Believe Me Why Frozen Love and Jumping at Shadows were only one-time performances. I doubt they were ever professionally recorded. I'm surprised they never performed Black Magic Woman -- perhaps because it was a huge hit for Santana around that time.
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That would never fit on vinyl.
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It should go in order as the setlist goes.
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There are different approaches to Live albums. It could be one entire performance, or selected performances from various shows.
I like the LIVE album because it's not conventional. But I was a little disappointed that the live disc from the most recent Rumours deluxe edition wasn't an entire show, but just a stingy 12 songs with no reference of where they were performed. But it's very clear that they received no touch up.
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This has been brought up several times before.
Thank goodness they did this live album because they were on top of their game. It has the best live versions of Rhiannon, Over My Head, Oh Well, Say You Love Me and the ultimate live version of I'm So Afraid. Missing is the Chain and Sisters for sure. Fireflies and One More Lonely Night are duds IMHO. Its nice to put something new but lacking production and creativity. I would like the Chain and Sisters live over these songs anyday. Love they put some deep cuts from Tusk on the album like Over and Over. That song live translates into a completely different realm. The guitar with harmonies at the end are amazing. I like the song Dreams and usually every live version is ok but this live version is horrible. Stevie is milking her voice sounding like an amateur. It was not recorded during the Tusk tour and they took it from a Paris sound check from the Rumours tour. I think she let the success of the song at that time go to her head and that is why she sounds the way that she does LOL But OMG even though this album was not a huge financial success and even the band and management was against it. Mick wrote in his 1990 book that it was his idea and sort of forced everyone to make it happen. Thank goodness it happened. It really shows the difference between Fleetwood Mac in the studio and Fleetwood Mac LIVE. Another goodie is a live version of Don't Let Me Down Again. |
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Attempting to fit things onto a double vinyl album:
Side A 1. The Chain 2. Think About Me 3. Dreams 4. Oh Well 5. Rhiannon Side B 1. Over and Over 2. Sara (using the original concert performance-- without the re-done vocals) 3. Not That Funny (using the shorter version from the first leg of the '79 tour) 4. Get Like You Used To Be 5. Landslide Side c 1. Tusk 2. Angel 3. You Make Loving Fun 4. What Makes You Think You're The One 5. One More Night Side D 1. Go Your Own Way 2. Blue Letter 3. I'm So Afraid 4. Songbird 5. The Farmer's Daughter |
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I've been playing around with this, and I've noticed that Stevie's songs tend to be pretty long. While those performances were pretty epic during the shows, it becomes a logistical nightmare when putting together an album like this, since each side of an album should be 22 minutes at most (although they certainly went over a few times on this one). It always appears like she's getting the shaft whenever I put something together, even though she's getting the same amount of album time. I can get like six or seven of Lindsey's songs in the same space as four of Stevie's.
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Pretty much.
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I wish Fleetwood Mac would release an expansive live anthology similar to the one Tom Petty did - five discs of 62 songs. His compilation includes album tracks and covers from various eras in random order.
It would be an arduous task to select the best rendition of their staple songs among so many eras. It's such a personal matter of opinion. I'd also include the songs performed with the Time band, but I can't remember what they played. Fleetwood Mac's all inclusive live repertoire would require perhaps six CDs. 1. Jumping at Shadows - bootleg 2. Green Manalishi 3. Spare Me a Little 4. Believe Me 5. Why 6. Get Like You Used to Be 7. Don't Let Me Down Again 8. Frozen Love -bootleg 9. Say You Love Me 10. Monday Morning 11. Blue Letter 12. Rhiannon 13. Over My Head 14. Landslide 15. World Turning 16. I'm So Afraid 17. Second Hand News 18. Dreams 19. Never Going Back Again 20. Don't Stop 21. Go Your Own Way 22. Songbird 23. Silver Springs 24. You Make Loving Fun 25. Gold Dust Woman 26. Oh Daddy 27. The Chain 28. Over and Over 29. The Ledge - rehearsal 30. Think About Me 31. Save Me a Place 32. Sara 33. What Makes You Think You're the One 34. Storms 35. Not That Funny 36. Sisters of the Moon 37. Angel 38. That's Enough for Me -bootleg 39. Brown Eyes 40. I Know I'm Not Wrong 41. Beautiful Child 42. Tusk 43. Eyes of the World 44. Love in Store 45. Hold Me 46. Gypsy 47. Big Love 48. Seven Wonders 49. Everywhere 50. Little Lies 51. Isn't it Midnight 52. Go Insane 53. Sweet Girl 54. Temporary One 55. Bleed to Love Her 56. In The Back of My Mind 57. Save Me 58. Love is Dangerous 59. When the Sun Goes Down 60. Stand Back 61. Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You 62. Say You Will 63. Goodbye Baby 64. Running Through the Garden 65. What's the World Coming To 66. Come 67. Say Goodbye 68. Peacekeeper 69. My Little Demon 70. Sad Angel 71. Oh Well 72. Stop Messing Around 73. I Loved Another Woman
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The album is great the way it is. You can not fit everything on it. I still listen to it and the Dance a lot. More than the expanded Rumours live disc, 1982 live cd from the DVD, and especially 1987's live cd from that DVD, and 2004's live cd.
Each one has some gems though The Chain on the live Rumours disc is kind of lame. Love the 1982 version!! |
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