security shoving hot young girls in front of Lindsey?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

I could see some security guy's provided by some of the the venues along the way

The band does have its own security people that travel with them from show to show.

Michele

[Deeshere]

Originally Posted by michelej1

The band does have its own security people that travel with them from show to show.

Michele

If it's being done by the band's own security then I think it's definitely being done by request. When you are touring with a group of people it's hard to keep a secret for very long. Also, I don't think the security guys would try to keep it a secret anyway, most likely they would tell Lindsey he could thank them for the hot girls standing in front of him the next day.

If Lindsey did not like it, he could tell them to stop and you know they would, but it seem like he likes it. Again, guys are guys and (IMO) Lindsey likes to feel young and look at young women. Nothing abnormal about it, it just sucks for some of the fans.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

If it's being done by the band's own security then I think it's definitely being done by request. When you are touring with a group of people it's hard to keep a secret for very long. Also, I don't think the security guys would try to keep it a secret anyway, most likely they would tell Lindsey he could thank them for the hot girls standing in front of him the next day.

If Lindsey did not like it, he could tell them to stop and you know they would, but it seem like he likes it.

This is not a phenomenon that I've noticed going on at shows I've seen. Yes, there are women at the front of the stage, but I haven't seen them escorted there by security. The ones I see usually elbow their way up there, past the people who had upfront tickets. No one brings them there.

I don't know enough about the people security guards bring up to the front to have a strong opinion about why it happens. But I don't conclude that Lindsey requested it, especially since it doesn't happen at his own solo shows.

I find the conjecture about who did it, who can stop it and why they don't all very amusing, but highly unfounded.

Michele

[jenniferuk]

I haven't noticed a widespread move either. In Columbus there were a few escorted up to rows 3-6ish but this seemed mainly to fill empties (I think we were in row 6 centre) For example, 2 aisle seats were empty for a good half an hr and the security guy moved up two young ladies, but this was row 4 or so. I wouldn't have noticed but they were a bit tipsy and dancing around etc.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jenniferuk

I haven't noticed a widespread move either. In Columbus there were a few escorted up to rows 3-6ish but this seemed mainly to fill empties (I think we were in row 6 centre) For example, 2 aisle seats were empty for a good half an hr and the security guy moved up two young ladies, but this was row 4 or so. I wouldn't have noticed but they were a bit tipsy and dancing around etc.

Yes, they do seem very concerned with having people standing at the stage (to my chagrin). I have seen security telling those sitting in the front rows to come up, reminding them that they can and should. But it wasn't being done on a discriminate basis, just whoever was sitting in the front before the show started.

Michele

[Deeshere]

Originally Posted by michelej1

This is not a phenomenon that I've noticed going on at shows I've seen. Yes, there are women at the front of the stage, but I haven't seen them escorted there by security. The ones I see usually elbow their way up there, past the people who had upfront tickets. No one brings them there.

I don't know enough about the people security guards bring up to the front to have a strong opinion about why it happens. But I don't conclude that Lindsey requested it, especially since it doesn't happen at his own solo shows.

I find the conjecture about who did it, who can stop it and why they don't all very amusing, but highly unfounded.

Michele

Well I guess I did forget to put (IMO) on the last post, so my bad. Also (and this is all conjecture) in his solo shows, since the setting is smaller and the seating is tighter, I would not think anything like this would happen as security would literally have to ask people to move out of their seats so the "hotter" women could sit down. The way I understood the last few post (and maybe I'm misunderstanding them) the" hotter" women are not taking anyone's seat they are just standing in front of Lindsey microphone. However, the fans that have paid for front row seats are being pushed back because of the crowd.
Also, you know most of what happens in and around this band is unfounded and almost all conjecture, so that's nothing new.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

Well I guess I did forget to put (IMO) on the last post, so my bad. Also (and this is all conjecture) in his solo shows, since the setting is smaller and the seating is tighter, I would not think anything like this would happen as security would literally have to ask people to move out of their seats so the "hotter" women could sit down. The way I understood the last few post (and maybe I'm misunderstanding them) the" hotter" women are not taking anyone's seat they are just standing in front of Lindsey microphone. However, the fans that have paid for front row seats are being pushed back because of the crowd.

I don't think "IMO" is necessary. It's always a given.

Yes, conjecture always runs rife. I understand that guards are bringing women up at some shows, but wouldn't know why they do it.

No, Lindsey's solo shows aren't too small to have people up front. There's always plenty of room in front of the stage and people do stand there more often than not. Lindsey seems to be fueled by their enthusiasm at his solo shows and if there is no one standing there, he seems disappointed. There'd be every opportunity to pull "hot" people up to the stage if that's what he wanted to do. Apparently, he doesn't.


At FM shows, people stand in front of the people in the front row no matter what, hot or not. The people in the front row have the opportunity to go to the stage if they feel like it. If they don't go, their view will be obstructed by those who do. I would prefer to sit in my front row seat comfortably without having anyone stand in front of me, but that is not the case. They encourage the stage standers.

The people in the first 3 rows always have the first choice to stand in front.

What people have been talking about here is people who don't have front tickets and who normally would not get past arena ushers, since their tickets aren't front tickets, being invited to come and stand near the stage.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Well, I'm 20 and decent looking, and at the show I went to, I was standing right in front of Lindsey (because I paid for close seats). I did feel like he paid me a lot of attention, but I felt like also paid attention to the people around me who weren't my age. I didn't feel like he was being creepy, I felt like any attention he gave was just feeding off of my own (over)enthusiasm.

But I'm not blonde.

No, he was great at the Atlanta show this year!!! I was so happy. It totally made up for the other show I was referring to.

Originally Posted by elle

i've never seen him giving more attention to people based on their looks,

Definitely it's not something he always does, but he has. And, I don't blame him, he's human - but it was discouraging / disappointing to me because that was the first time I had ever been at the stage for any show and for it to be FM and be in front of him was thrilling. But, I've had several more happier experiences since.

[Deeshere]

Originally Posted by michelej1

What people have been talking about here is people who don't have front tickets and who normally would not get past arena ushers, since their tickets aren't front tickets, being invited to come and stand near the stage.

Michele

This is exactly what I've been talking about too.

I went back and re-read the previous post to see if maybe I misread them and I don't think I am. I seems that there have been other threads prior to this one talking about the same thing and that it's been going on for a while now.

Either way I don't think it matters, and I do respect your opinion on this matter, and I will admit I could be wrong. There's really no way we will know for sure what's going on unless someone from the band talks, and I don't see that happening.

[SteveMacD]

What? Do people REALLY believe that he b***s up over Stevie these days? Really? Lindsey's a member of Fleetwood Mac, but his member is part of manhood, and being a man his age and his status with a guitar strapped on leads to twenty somethings ogling over every note, and what's wrong with that??? Other than the money and the hotties, why would anybody want to spend THAT kind of time with their ex-old lady?

[iamnotafraid]

Now I know why I was allowed to stand in front of Lindsey.
I'm beautiful.

Wait! I maybe hot, but not so young - and definitely not female.
How did I pull that off?

For the record, Lindsey was making goo-goo eyes at the chic standing
by me for much of the show.

[Iktomi]

But I agree with your sentiment. I resent the often-perpetuated idea that being attracted to attractive people suddenly becomes "creepy" once you hit a certain age. I certainly don't plan on stopping myself from looking as I get older.

Not to hijack this thread but as a young woman in her twenties (and not too far removed from her teens), I feel that it's one thing to catch an older man taking a quick look, but anything more than that, I really start to feel threatened and/or creeped out (well, in fairness, I feel uncomfortable if men of any age gawk or ogle, but there is admittedly less of a creep factor with younger men than compared to older men). In hindsight, as a well-endowed young teenager, I really, REALLY felt uncomfortable with older men checking me out. Like, my fight or flight would kick in. I think whether you resent it or not, some girls and women are going to be creeped out by you checking them out because you've reached a certain age. That might not stop you from staring, but you can't stop them from feeling creeped out, because like for me, I can't help when my feeling of fight or flight kicks in with certain men (and men of a certain age).

I think it's one thing to admire someone being attractive and taking a quick peak and another thing to feel entitled to gaze upon them just because you find them attractive. That's ignoring them as a person with feelings, and essentially, objectifying them.

[Lindsfan]

Originally Posted by michelej1

This is not a phenomenon that I've noticed going on at shows I've seen. Yes, there are women at the front of the stage, but I haven't seen them escorted there by security. The ones I see usually elbow their way up there, past the people who had upfront tickets. No one brings them there.

I've been to quite a few shows this tour (both early on, and more recently), and that's been my experience as well

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yes, they do seem very concerned with having people standing at the stage (to my chagrin). I have seen security telling those sitting in the front rows to come up, reminding them that they can and should. But it wasn't being done on a discriminate basis, just whoever was sitting in the front before the show started.

The security guy was really nice, and just made it clear that we should all (in the first 2 or 3 rows, whatever it was) feel free to come on up. It was actually appreciated, as it overrode the venue security when they weren't being so generous. I'm just an average middle-aged type, myself, and the security was as nice to me as they were to the hot, young girls. I never was asked to move over, or give up my spot. I realize it might be somewhat different with GA, but even so, it just wasn't an issue.

Originally Posted by michelej1

No, Lindsey's solo shows aren't too small to have people up front. There's always plenty of room in front of the stage and people do stand there more often than not. Lindsey seems to be fueled by their enthusiasm at his solo shows and if there is no one standing there, he seems disappointed. There'd be every opportunity to pull "hot" people up to the stage if that's what he wanted to do. Apparently, he doesn't.

He definitely feeds off the audience, no matter their age, gender, or physical appearance. He just never comes across as being concerned with stuff like that. Not on stage, and not in random meetings off stage. Having said that, I'm sure he probably enjoys the attention from the young ladies. Why not? But I can't see him requesting it. And frankly, there are always a fair number of hot, young people up near the front anyways, who paid for the seats, so it's not really even necessary to bring up more.

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by Lindsfan

I've been to quite a few shows this tour (both early on, and more recently), and that's been my experience as well



The security guy was really nice, and just made it clear that we should all (in the first 2 or 3 rows, whatever it was) feel free to come on up. It was actually appreciated, as it overrode the venue security when they weren't being so generous. I'm just an average middle-aged type, myself, and the security was as nice to me as they were to the hot, young girls. I never was asked to move over, or give up my spot. I realize it might be somewhat different with GA, but even so, it just wasn't an issu


He definitely feeds off the audience, no matter their age, gender, or physical appearance. He just never comes across as being concerned with stuff like that. Not on stage, and not in random meetings off stage. Having said that, I'm sure he probably enjoys the attention from the young ladies. Why not? But I can't see him requesting it. And frankly, there are always a fair number of hot, young people up near the front anyways, who paid for the seats, so it's not really even necessary to bring up more.

Well, I went to two shows and saw the same security guy (short, bald, goatee, yet very buff) escort groups of young chicks up in front of Lindseys mic right after the lights go out and the show is about to start. In fact, the second show I went to I actually saw that security guy scoping out chicks before the show - I ALMOST said something to him about it but Kim and I were busy enjoying our engagement and calling relatives.
I don't see anything wrong with it. I mean, good for them that get picked. I just think it's kinda funny though.

Jamie