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Old 04-24-2003, 01:14 AM
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But as a pooch carrier I defend the pooch and its alright. She looked ok but she needs some red bull !
Hey it's bad enough she has a pooch - now you want her to have wings as well? She's gonna look like a petting zoo soon!
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:23 AM
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they need to do Illume tomarrow night

something differant.. even if its not a single.. who cares?.. i remember lindsey doing " bwana " on SNL years ago..... not a radio tune at all.. but he didnt care... the performance rocked... I hope they shake it up a bit..... this playing it safe stuff has to go.. let loose... rock out....
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:47 AM
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The whole performance sucked.
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Old 04-24-2003, 03:15 AM
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Poochwise it is hard to say what's going on under there.
For crying out loud, that get-up has so many layers she could be hiding Osama Bin Laden under it.

Sorry to say it, but that little gig was dull.

What is up with Lindsey ? His singing is flat. On Today, and this show, he hit a lot of sour notes. Maybe he has a cold and can't hear himself.

These recent performances aren't going to sell anyone an album.
Does someone need to drag that velvet bag out from under the soundboard ?
Someone do something, anything, to charge this group up a bit !
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Old 04-24-2003, 03:56 AM
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Kinda funny that Stevie used to get ridiculed endlessly for being a "rock chick cum fashion maven," and now that she's toned down that part of her stage image, she gets ragged about that.
The poor woman can never win.

Anyway, I thought that band sounded fine... nothing extraordinary, but certainly not awful either.
But yes, "Peacekeeper" seems to be turning into a rather mundane song when performed live. Which is weird for Fleetwood Mac, because their songs usually have more crunch on stage.

I noticed some people are commenting that Stevie hasn't been putting any "passion" into her singing on "Peacekeeper," but keep in mind it's not her song. Lindsey's the lead, and she's just providing harmony vocals for him... which requires a more subdued performance on her end.

If she did "go off," then she's probably get blasted for trying to upstage L.B.... so it's another one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations.

Hopefully we'll get a more energetic performance from both of them tomorrow night.

As for the more aesthetic aspects... Stevie, to me, looks slimmer than she has in YEARS. Even more so than on 'The Dance.'
But yeah, i'll admit that I'd love to see her mix up her wardrobe a little more. Some reds instead of always wearing black. And something a little different with her hairstyle (she's letting her bangs grow out, but it's not very flattering to her).

And Lindsey? Woof! He is getting hotter and hotter every time I see him (and I used to think his peak "hottie" years were around '73-'78).


Looking forward to tomorrow night!
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:05 AM
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I noticed some people are commenting that Stevie hasn't been putting any "passion" into her singing on "Peacekeeper," but keep in mind it's not her song. Lindsey's the lead, and she's just providing harmony vocals for him... which requires a more subdued performance on her end.

If she did "go off," then she's probably get blasted for trying to upstage L.B.... so it's another one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations.
You took the words right out of my mouth - she cannot win for losing in this situation. I think it is way cool and totally respectful of her not to draw attention to herself (which like it or not she clearly could do with one twirl or one banshee wail ) from LB during "his" FM song. I see this as similar to the way she sort of backs up and watches LB during his guitar solos like in GYOW. I mean if she danced her ass off during this part of GYOW (oh the days), she would be totally blasted and if I was LB, I would not appreciate it. That is his FM moment.

Also, I did not hear one out of key note from La Nicks, which cannot be said for LB (painfully flat at times to my ears). But, in my opinion LB has never really been about great singing as long as he has that great guitar!

I am also glad "they" put on key that other male voice that was way off key on the Today show.

All in all, I thought it was a good performance of a lackluster song. Maybe it would not be so lackluster if they quickened the pace of it live. Maybe they also should stand closer than ten feet apart. That might ignite some flames!!!!
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:50 AM
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Maybe I didn't get the full effect because I just watched the video stream, but am I missing something here? I thought they all did great. It didn't seem boring and I thought Stevie looked good. I noticed her hand movements are back (I guess it was too cold on the TS for them) Anyway, I think we could be a little more forgiving towards the band we love. I mean,come on, are they really THAT bad?

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Old 04-24-2003, 06:54 AM
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Anyway, I think we could be a little more forgiving towards the band we love. I mean,come on, are they really THAT bad?

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No, they are not bad. I just think they could try harder to look exciting, which we all know they clearly can do even at their age (no slam intended). Of course, LB and, more so, La Nicks could read the phone book from the stage and I would experience joy and excitment on some level!!!!
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:10 AM
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Hey it's bad enough she has a pooch - now you want her to have wings as well? She's gonna look like a petting zoo soon!


LMAO! Btw..they weren't horrible..the song was...hopefully they kick it up tonight...
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:36 AM
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Fair is fair: Stevie sounded better than Lindsey. But when you have a handful of words to sing as opposed to the whole song, you're dealing with less pressure. It is easier to get in key once someone else has already started singing. Not to mention that Lindsey is also playing guitar.

Why the surprise at Lindsey's live voice? Do you think it really sounds that great on the Dance? His rendition of Tusk particularly leaves something to be desired. In fairness, he does a great job on things like Bleed to Love Her, but overall Lindsey has more of a studio voice. He has to practice and practice to get it right. When he gets in front of an audience with a loud band behind him, he tends to compensate by singing higher than he should and it comes out strained. Notice how much better he sounds when it's just him and his guitar.

Peacekeeper performances have indeed been lackluster. I fear the studio arrangement simply doesn't work live for this song. It's almost as it Lindsey needs to put more beef in his guitar and one of the background guys should play the riff. Speeding it up a few beats wouldn't hurt either.

Hmmm... Could it be that we're reacting to the absence of Christine subconsciously?

They should have brought Sheryl along.
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Fair is fair: Stevie sounded better than Lindsey. But when you have a handful of words to sing as opposed to the whole song, you're dealing with less pressure. It is easier to get in key once someone else has already started singing. Not to mention that Lindsey is also playing guitar.

. . .

Hmmm... Could it be that we're reacting to the absence of Christine subconsciously?

They should have brought Sheryl along.
I disagree in that although the lead vocal in Peacekeeper is somewhat tricky with the drawn out words, the harmony is harder to sing; harmony parts usually are. LB does make the mistake of volume to compensate for the loudness, etc. but, again, I do like it when he sings - I just think he could do better with some lessons/coaching - Stevie certainly bit the bullet and took them

I so miss Christine if for no other reason than they look un-united and somewhat disjointed in the front. They need to move those mikes closer and give it a little reaction value.
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Harmony is not easy, granted. My point is that it is easier to start singing in key when someone else is already singing. Notice how he adjusted his voice after the first few words. He heard himself and made a correction. Very common. Good thing he heard himself, otherwise the performance might have really sucked. And I've seen that happen.
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I'm gonna get flamed for this, but here's what needs to happen if FM is gonna perform great live again:

Stevie and Lindsey need to start having an affair immediately. That is, if they're not already. And if they are already, Lindsey needs to bump it up a few notches, maybe pop a viagra or two, who knows.

The reason is because I have come to the conclusion that they are only interseting when singing/bitching at each other. That's why The Dance was so great with Silver Springs and everything. Even Bleed to Love Her could have been misconstrued as Lindsey longing for Stevie. And while Peacekeeper is a fabulous song, it inspires absolutely none of the passion that we all want to see. And guess what, that IS what the public wants to see. Why do you think we have to watch endless interviews about their relationship that took place 30 years ago. Sex sells.

So, S&L, let's start the affair, and let's pull out Thrown Down, EFO, Bleed To Love Her, Smile At You, Come, and let's sell it to the audience. Explode at each other on stage! Ditch Peacekeeper and SYW, unless Stevie is going start singing it more to Lindsey.
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That's IT!!!! You know what dissention, you can knock it off. Blaming Stevie EVERY FRIGGIN" time you're not happy with a peformance, now matter what it is, who takes lead vocal, who wrote the song...if you don't like it, it's Stevie's fault!!!! You are going past the point of constructive criticism and are just out and out SLAMMING Stevie now. She is OBVIOUSLY someone who you don't care for (and if you do, you sure wouldn't know it). Keep in mind that some of us on here do like Stevie and i for one don't appreciate the comments (Like the one "Is Stevie carrying Sheryl Crow's love child?") What a bunch of Bulls@!t. Stevie looked fine and if anything I think she may have dropped a little more weight. Plus, the weight issue is getting old...she has basically looked the same since I saw her in tampa on July 4. 1996. That's going on 7 years ago.

And, YOU'RE wrong!!!! Stevie WAS vocally better than Lindsey and I didn't think Lindsey sounded bad by any means. I just thought he could have tried to harmonize with her a little better on the choruses instead of singing such an upfront lead vocal.


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Kinda funny that Stevie used to get ridiculed endlessly for being a "rock chick cum fashion maven," and now that she's toned down that part of her stage image, she gets ragged about that.
The poor woman can never win.

Anyway, I thought that band sounded fine... nothing extraordinary, but certainly not awful either.
But yes, "Peacekeeper" seems to be turning into a rather mundane song when performed live. Which is weird for Fleetwood Mac, because their songs usually have more crunch on stage.

I noticed some people are commenting that Stevie hasn't been putting any "passion" into her singing on "Peacekeeper," but keep in mind it's not her song. Lindsey's the lead, and she's just providing harmony vocals for him... which requires a more subdued performance on her end.

If she did "go off," then she's probably get blasted for trying to upstage L.B.... so it's another one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations.

Hopefully we'll get a more energetic performance from both of them tomorrow night.

As for the more aesthetic aspects... Stevie, to me, looks slimmer than she has in YEARS. Even more so than on 'The Dance.'
But yeah, i'll admit that I'd love to see her mix up her wardrobe a little more. Some reds instead of always wearing black. And something a little different with her hairstyle (she's letting her bangs grow out, but it's not very flattering to her).

And Lindsey? Woof! He is getting hotter and hotter every time I see him (and I used to think his peak "hottie" years were around '73-'78).


Looking forward to tomorrow night!
There was no excuse whatsoever for those RAL era costumes she wore, they were atrocious. They were so ugly they made peoples eyes hurt! So, comments made about those were justified. Nowadays though, she has completely gotten rid of her image and style. Now it's just plain black, nothing "gypsy" about her garb these days. She didn't tone it down, she obliterated it. People expect her to wear clothes that complement her mystical music BECAUSE she is Stevie Nicks. When she gets rid of that image, of course people are going to say something, as they have every right to.

Regardless of whether or not it was her song and she was only harmonizing, her harmony SUCKED. She was off-key, lazy, and bored. That surprised me because she is such a good harmony singer. Just because it wasn't her song, that didn't mean she couldn't put passion into it. She's in a GROUP, someone elses song should be treated as her own. She should put 100% into what she's doing. What I saw last night, along with a few others, was horrid. She's become incredibly boring and blah to watch these days. She needs her oomph. Her vocal was atrocious and I'd hate to hear what non-fans thought. She's trying to sell an album, just like the others; she needs to put in a performance that is going to do that. Last night, she completely missed the mark. It was painful.

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