Say You Will faves...Now and Then

[EveryHour]

I know the "Most Shocking Revelation"/Silver Girl thread kind of turned into this anyway, but.....
I'm sure this thread's been done before and I just missed it, but now even more time has gone by so the changes should still be interesting. I just find it fascinating and love the fact that your initial least-favorites on an album can become your favorites and vice-versa. List what your Say You Will favorites were right when the album came out and what they are right this moment. We'll include the bonus disc just to add to it.

Then:
Illume
Miranda
Come
Running Through The Garden
Steal Your Heart Away
Everybody Finds Out

Now:
WTWCT
Thrown Down
Say You Will (MUST be the AOL version...still can't handle the kids)
Smile At You
Running Through The Garden
Destiny Rules
Say Goodbye
Goodbye Baby
Not Make Believe

(Yes...I knew all of the demo or outtake versions of the newly-recorded old songs before Say You Will came out. I never HATED the "new" Smile At You, but I have grown to think it a MASTERPIECE! I also think it's unfair to assume that Say You Will was written purely for commerciality. Sometimes a song is sincere, but happens to also be commercial...the likely case with Stevie. The melody is wonderful and so are the lyrics. Sure...I could do with one less repetition of the chorus at the end, but it's not the end of the world. I see why it became the title track: "That always seems to heal the wounds / If I can get you to dance" IS Fleetwood Mac right now.)

[markolas]

I think I actually loved Lindsey's songs the most when the CD first came out, and those are still some of my favorites:

"Murrow Turning Over in His Grave"
"Miranda"
"Come"
"Bleed to Love Her"
"Say Goodbye"

I don't like "Smile at You" as much as I did when the album first came out. I think the verses should be spaced out more. As for the rest of Stevie's songs, my favorites have more or less stayed the same:

"Illume"
"Thrown Down"
"Say You Will"
"Running Through the Garden"

I've always been kind of indifferent to "Silver Girl" and I didn't like "Red Rover" or "Everybody Finds Out" at first, but they've grown on me, as has "Peacekeeper."

I think "Say Goodbye" is the best song on the CD now, whereas at first I probably would've picked "Smile at You."

[skcin]

The only big difference I have is that RTTG is no longer one of my faves - I don't hate it, but it isn't "doing it" for me lately. Thrown Down is the one I want to hear over & over & I don't hate Silver Girl as much anymore. I like Red Rover a lot more now than then. I can take or leave Peacekeeper & I agree that the single version of SYW is the better one.

Paula

[gldstwmn]

Still Love: Love Minus Zero (No Limit) and Destiny Rules

Still Don't Like: Silver Girl and Smile At You.

[dissention]

I still hate Bleed To Love Her, Thrown Down, and Not Make Believe (ugh). I used to hate Silver Girl and Red Rover, but I love them now. I've gotten tired of Illume, Steal Your Hear Away, and Destiny Rules. I still *love* all of the other songs.

[Merf]

Former Faves:

Thrown Down
Everybody Finds Out
Destiny Rules
Illume
Smile At You
Miranda
Running Through the Garden
Peacekeeper
Say You Will

Current Faves:

**Thrown Down**
**Everybody Finds Out**
Come
Say You Will
Destiny Rules
Peacekeeper
What's the World Coming To?
Steal Your Heart Away
Say Goodbye

Still not fond of: Goodbye Baby, Silver Girl, Bleed to Love Her, Red Rover. (Although Silver Girl and Red Rover have both grown on me considerably.)

[darklinensuit]

RTTG, Goodbye Baby, and SYHA were and are favorites.
SAY and Illume have grown on me.
Peacekeeper has lost much of its charm for me.

- Jake

[mylittledemon]

My faves on Say You Will:

What's the World Coming To
Murrow Turning Over in His Grave
Thrown Down
Say You Will
Peacekeeper
Come
Running Thru the Garden
Bleed to Love Her
Destiny Rules
Say Goodbye

There ya go...I think that would've been the best way to run the album. Maybe another song of Stevie's in there...."Silver Girl" perhaps.

[golden braid]

Favorites then:

Thrown Down
Say You Will
Steal Your Heart Away
Destiny Rules
What's the World Coming To
Say Goodbye

Songs that have grown on me:

Illume
Everybody Finds Out
Come
Goodbye Baby

Song I still am not into:

Not Make Believe

[wondergirl9847]

ULTIMATE Faves now:

Red Rover (DUH. LOL)
Come
Murrow
EFO
Smile At You
Destiny Rules

Songs that grew on me:

WTWCT
Goodbye Baby

Songs I don't care for now or then (but is not as bad as day one LOL):

Silver Girl

Songs that I like ALOT, but are not my ultimate faves:

Peacekeeper (I love and adore the ACLU version to death)
Say Goodbye (I love and adore the GOS version to death)
SYHA and BTLH (I don't know WHY, but these songs seem like brother and sister to me. )
RTTG
TD
Miranda
Illume

Song I'm really kinda sick of, but it's still a catchy song:

Say You Will

Songs I forgot to mention because I NEVER, EVER listen to the Limited Edition CD:

Not Make Believe
Love Minus Zero/No Limit

[seteca]

When I first heard the album I thought it was some of their best work ever, and I still believe it is.

My favs. then are still my current favs. and always will be:

Murrow, Red Rover, Come, Smile At You, Say Goodbye.

I love all the other tracks* on the album too, and the album is only 2nd to Tusk in terms of Stevie's songs, IMHO.

*Only song which is "nothing special" is Silver Girl. Although I've removed it from my playlist, I don't think it's particularly bad - it's just that it's so AVERAGE compared to all her other songs on this awesome album.

[chiliD]

Disclaimer: I'd already had Lindsey's Gift Of Screws for a couple of years by the time SYW came out.

Dislikes (since I liked pretty much the whole album on first listen...well, except for):

Then:
Come
Silver Girl

Now:
Silver Girl
Running Through The Garden (not even Lindsey solo at the end can save this one for me anymore)


My "short list", when I don't listen to the whole album all the way through:

Thrown Down (wall of sound version)
Not Make Believe
Smile At You
Miranda
Say You Will (I don't mind "the kids" at all)
Steal Your Heart Away
Destiny Rules

[The Tower]

GREAT THEN and for the most part still to this day:

Everybody Finds Out
Running Through the Garden
Goodbye Baby
Bleed to Love Her
Say You Will
Smile at You

Stuff that grew on me:

Illume (!!!!)
Steal Your Heart Away (!!!)
Miranda
Destiny Rules

Stinkers that I just can't get into:

Not Make Believe (YIKES!)
Come
Red Rover



Bleed to Love Her is just "okay" now. Say You Will needs to add a bridge and delete a chorus. Smile at You doesn't really have a chorus and kinda needs one (although that has always been the case even with the kick-ass "angry" version). Running Through the Garden's production leads me away from it, but Stevie's UNBELIEVABLE vocals always draw me back in. Steal Your Heart Away is f**king gorgeous.

Everybody Finds Out is still perfection to me and Illume has GROWN to perfection for me- I don't know why the hell I didn't like it at first.

GREAT THREAD!

[jadegypsy]

Then (1st Listen)
Thrown Down
SYHA (LOVED)
Destiney Rules (LOVED)

Disliked (1st Listen)
Come
Murrow
RR
EFO
RTTG

Now Faves

TD
SYHA (FAV Lindsey song)
DR (Fav Stevie song)
Illume
EFO
Come (just b/c I have the concert image playing in my head)
SG (best lyrics by lindsey, but better live)

Dislike
Murrow
RR
Silver Girl (Love the lyrics, hate the beat)

[EricBliss12345]

I have a handfull of favorites that I liked best when I first heard it and are still the only ones I like, which are

Peacekeeper
Say You Will

and the best on the album...
Miranda

Sometimes when I put it in I listen to Murrow for the killer guitar solo alone. I really liked Everybody Finds Out when I first heard it but it sounds sort of corny to me now. The rest has yet to make any kind of impression on me.

I hate how Lindsey uses that cliche midrange isolation technique on some of the vocals and music, like how on Everybody Finds Out it sounds like it's coming from a cheap radio and then it sounds normal. I HATE that.