Apostle

[doodyhead]

The first PVK Album release "In The Skies", featured the instrumental called Apostle which was a bare somber but haunting piece. In the release of "kolors" a few years later, it reappears as a fully orchstrated tune. I know a lot of the songs were billed as outtakes of the prior PVK releases. Does anyone know what transpired woth this particular song? Who did the orchestration? When was it done? Is there any anecdotal reference to the mix?

curiosly yours

doodyhead

[dino]

Originally Posted by doodyhead

The first PVK Album release "In The Skies", featured the instrumental called Apostle which was a bare somber but haunting piece. In the release of "kolors" a few years later, it reappears as a fully orchstrated tune. I know a lot of the songs were billed as outtakes of the prior PVK releases. Does anyone know what transpired woth this particular song? Who did the orchestration? When was it done? Is there any anecdotal reference to the mix?

curiosly yours

doodyhead

"Apostle" only appears on the reissue of "Kolors", it wasn't
on the original album.
The version on "Kolors" is the single version, released in June 1978.
So the orchestration likely took place in 77-78, probably with Peter's consent, though he doesn't remember anything.

It's not an outtake then, but another instrumental, "Bandit"
was reworked on "Kolors" - and totally ruined.

[sharksfan2000]

Dino, on what release(s) is the original recording of "Bandit"? Thanks.

[dino]

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

Dino, on what release(s) is the original recording of "Bandit"? Thanks.

On the 1988 compilation "Legend" - where most of the non-Kolors
outtakes showed up. But these weren't overdubbed.
Otherwise, "Bandit" is available on many other PVK compilations.

[dansven]

But the "non-dubbed" version of Bandit isn't available on any of the remastered PVK/Creole albums, is it?

[doodyhead]

My memory is not what it used to be
so

I had to pull it from the attic.
Apostle on the US version

[doodyhead]

The US Release was from: Sail Records.manchester, Massachusettts 1979
Catalog Number 0110 distributed by Rounder Licenced from PVK
side 1
In the Skies
Slabo Day
A Fool No More
Tribal Dance

side 2
Seven Stars
Funky Chunk
Just For You
Proud Pinto
Apostle Snowy White Rhythm guitar, Peter Green Lead Guitar

[doodyhead]

I am sorry.


I Am A doodyhead. You meant that Apostle only appears again on the reissue of Kolors, not that Apostle does not appear on In The Skies

[dino]

Originally Posted by doodyhead

I am sorry.


I Am A doodyhead. You meant that Apostle only appears again on the reissue of Kolors, not that Apostle does not appear on In The Skies

Yes!
Though the "orchestral" single version was also on the "Blue Guitar"
PVK compilation in the middle 80's

And yes, the original version of "Bandit" wasn't on any of the recent
PVK remasters. Strange! It's a beautiful song.
And a pity that they didn't locate the non-overdubbed versions of the
"Kolors" songs - the overdubs do sound terrible.

[Dogon]

Originally Posted by doodyhead

The first PVK Album release "In The Skies", featured the instrumental called Apostle which was a bare somber but haunting piece. In the release of "kolors" a few years later, it reappears as a fully orchstrated tune. I know a lot of the songs were billed as outtakes of the prior PVK releases. Does anyone know what transpired woth this particular song? Who did the orchestration? When was it done? Is there any anecdotal reference to the mix?

curiosly yours

doodyhead

If my memory doesn't mislead entirely I seem to remember that the orchestrated version of "Apostle" was released as a single at about the time of the release of the "In The Skies" album. I'll check as soon as I get back home to see if there are any info on orchestration etc och the label. The cover of my copy was a simple non-illustrated one, but "PVK"-green. The B-side was "Tribal Dance", same version as on the album.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Dogon

If my memory doesn't mislead entirely I seem to remember that the orchestrated version of "Apostle" was released as a single at about the time of the release of the "In The Skies" album. I'll check as soon as I get back home to see if there are any info on orchestration etc och the label. The cover of my copy was a simple non-illustrated one, but "PVK"-green. The B-side was "Tribal Dance", same version as on the album.

It has been my understanding all these years that "Tribal Dance" was the A-side with "Apostle" being the B-side. But, I could be wrong...30 years does weird things to the memory banks...especially considering the extracurricular activies that abounded in the late '70s.

I think the PVK reissues should've just omitted the Kolors album altogether and used those songs as bonus tracks on the correspondng albums that the sessions produced. (Of course, that would mean that both versions of "Apostle" been released on the In The Skies reissue, etc)

[Wouter Vuijk]

How about the version of Apostle with his ex-wife Jane on violin.
When and where was this recorded (and WHY???)? Anybody have any clues?

[dino]

Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

How about the version of Apostle with his ex-wife Jane on violin.
When and where was this recorded (and WHY???)? Anybody have any clues?

That's interesting, I've never even heard of the existence
of a such version!

And as for "Kolors" - why couldn't they dig out the non-ovedubbed versions???

[doodyhead]

Dear Folks,

I am also interested in this. I , in my poor plodding way have tried to see if she had ever played anywhere with Peter. I was unsucsessful.. Violin goes so well with Peters voice. Just lke the sound of the "59 LP"

doodyhead

[dansven]

Wasn't the violins something Peter Green suggested before they went into the studio? And then Peter VK talked him out of it... said if PG wanted a violin player, then he'd get him one, because Jane was no violin player...