Giving Stevie the benefit of the doubt

[WatchChain]

As evidenced by prior posts, I've never been one to blindly defend Stevie Nicks. However, there are several amateur shot audience videos from Music Cares that show the entire band making fun of Stevie behind her back as she gives a never-ending acceptance speech (even in the minutes leading up to the "Mick and Chris Waltz").

For example, fast foward this video to the 4:25 minute mark and watch for about 20 seconds. It clearly shows the entire band laughing at Stevie, even Christine McVie begins checking her watch. These actions lead up to Mick and Chris waltzing to lampoon Stevie's speech. All of this behavior is carried on in front of an audience of thousands--including the national press.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_Wonk4CNM

My problem with this is that:

1) Lindsey does not appear to be the ONLY one smirking at Stevie's behavior behind her back--why should ONLY HE be chastised?

2) The truth is, these people obviously have very little respect for Stevie. Sure, I know the woman can talk forever, but they could at least cut out their s**t for a national audience. All are guilty here!

[StevieandChris]

The smirking thing was just one part of what upset her, according to the article. She was probably annoyed at Chris and Mick, but Lindsey doing it was just one more thing on that list that sent her over the edge.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by WatchChain

As evidenced by prior posts, I've never been one to blindly defend Stevie Nicks. However, there are several amateur shot audience videos from Music Cares that show the entire band making fun of Stevie behind her back as she gives a never-ending acceptance speech (even in the minutes leading up to the "Mick and Chris Waltz").

For example, fast foward this video to the 4:25 minute mark and watch for about 20 seconds. It clearly shows the entire band laughing at Stevie, even Christine McVie begins checking her watch. These actions lead up to Mick and Chris waltzing to lampoon Stevie's speech. All of this behavior is carried on in front of an audience of thousands--including the national press.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_Wonk4CNM

My problem with this is that:

1) Lindsey does not appear to be the ONLY one smirking at Stevie's behavior behind her back--why should ONLY HE be chastised?

2) The truth is, these people obviously have very little respect for Stevie. Sure, I know the woman can talk forever, but they could at least cut out their s**t for a national audience. All are guilty here!

I think maybe 40 years of them not taking her seriously might have come to a head for her. I don't think that was the only reason though.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I think maybe 40 years of them not taking her seriously might have come to a head for her. I don't think that was the only reason tough.

oh I think after 1981 they began taking her very seriously. especially because at that point, not only had she out-succeeded them, she had a ferocious management team who began DEMANDING better treatment for her.

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by WatchChain

As evidenced by prior posts, I've never been one to blindly defend Stevie Nicks. However, there are several amateur shot audience videos from Music Cares that show the entire band making fun of Stevie behind her back as she gives a never-ending acceptance speech (even in the minutes leading up to the "Mick and Chris Waltz").

For example, fast foward this video to the 4:25 minute mark and watch for about 20 seconds. It clearly shows the entire band laughing at Stevie, even Christine McVie begins checking her watch. These actions lead up to Mick and Chris waltzing to lampoon Stevie's speech. All of this behavior is carried on in front of an audience of thousands--including the national press.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_Wonk4CNM

My problem with this is that:

1) Lindsey does not appear to be the ONLY one smirking at Stevie's behavior behind her back--why should ONLY HE be chastised?

2) The truth is, these people obviously have very little respect for Stevie. Sure, I know the woman can talk forever, but they could at least cut out their s**t for a national audience. All are guilty here!

My bet is that he is using this as an excuse. He did something else backstage or just tell her when they were by themselves and that pushed her over the edge. He will never admit it. I really hope Steve he comes out and tells her side because petty little Lindsey just wants attention attention attention.

[WatchChain]

Originally Posted by JohnL

My bet is that he is using this as an excuse. He did something else backstage or just tell her when they were by themselves and that pushed her over the edge. He will never admit it. I really hope Steve he comes out and tells her side because petty little Lindsey just wants attention attention attention.

I too would like Stevie to come forth with her side of the story. Both are guilty of toxic behavior. The truth falls somewhere in between.

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by JohnL

My bet is that he is using this as an excuse. He did something else backstage or just tell her when they were by themselves and that pushed her over the edge. He will never admit it. I really hope Steve he comes out and tells her side because petty little Lindsey just wants attention attention attention.

You’re joking right? He was the one whowas fired not her. I know it’s hard for you to see it but she has become an insufferable POS

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

You’re joking right? He was the one whowas fired not her. I know it’s hard for you to see it but she has become an insufferable POS

In my opinion he has been that since day one. Why can’t you see that?

[The Chain]

Originally Posted by JohnL

just wants attention attention attention.

oh my. Yes, it's Lindsey who wants attention attention attention. Who turns every interview, story, anecdote about anything, however unrelated/inappropriate, into a me-me-me fest Not Stevie. Lindsey who has strayed from his artistic integrity to try and stay on top, several times throughout his career, who's still chasing an unreasonable level of chart-success for a 70 year old in today's radio climate, and uses the improbability of said success to just not create at all. Not Stevie. I gotta try wearing those Nicks-colored lenses sometime, must be nice!

[Buster]

The problem in all of this is so many people rush to take opinions and comments as fact. Social media makes it worse. People can’t take time to wait for facts and the entire story to come out. It’s like a compulsion.

Anyone who thinks the full story is Stevie kicked out Lindsey because of a smirk and the intro song is smoking some seriously crazy stuff.

The real POS (plural) are those who make rash judgements without facts, evidence, and critical thinking.

[MaryLiz2]

Originally Posted by Buster

Anyone who thinks the full story is Stevie kicked out Lindsey because of a smirk and the intro song is smoking some seriously crazy stuff.

But, but...I saw it on the twitter so it must be true.

I took a break from this place because the Ledge had become as toxic as Lindsey and Stevie's relationship, but popped back in to see what's up now that the tour is on. I thought it might have calmed down some...nope.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Buster

The problem in all of this is so many people rush to take opinions and comments as fact. Social media makes it worse. People can’t take time to wait for facts and the entire story to come out. It’s like a compulsion.

Anyone who thinks the full story is Stevie kicked out Lindsey because of a smirk and the intro song is smoking some seriously crazy stuff.

The real POS (plural) are those who make rash judgements without facts, evidence, and critical thinking.

Preach! Reading the theories posted on this board runs the gamut between somewhat amusing and downright insane. None of know anything but you sure wouldn't know that by reading these threads.

Plus, I don't feel sorry for any of them, not Lindsey, not Stevie, not Christine, not Mick, and not John. Neil and Mike, actually I do feel a modicum of sympathy for, but not the others. Can you imagine making $14 million dollars for a 60 city tour? Give me a break! Of course, I'm contributing to their swelled bank accounts by seeing both FM and Lindsey LOL but I don't care one bit about the outcome of this lawsuit.