Rumours Live Album Sept 23

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by BLY

I’m currently listening to this set on headphones and it’s amazing. The harmonies are as tight as they ever were live. Christine doesn’t go flat and Stevie is in control of her vocals. Amazing! I wish Stevie was singing with Christine on Oh Daddy and with Lindsey on I’m So Afraid. (Or if that is her it was turned up a bit, but I think it’s Chris)

I swear I hear a backing vocal on ISA, but I couldn't make it out.

[BLY]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I swear I hear a backing vocal on ISA, but I couldn't make it out.

Me too. I think it’s Stevie because she did it back then (as the studio version)but it’s very hard to tell.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by BLY

Me too. I think it’s Stevie because she did it back then (as the studio version)but it’s very hard to tell.

I like it so much better when it's BuckVie. But I truly can't tell here.

[BigAl84]

Folks over an another music forum were saying that this show is a relatively tame show compared to others on the Rumours tour. I've always found a lot of the Rumours shows we have on tape to have similar energy. For me, the Tusk tour has always been easier to evaluate and notice the great nights vs average nights.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Folks over an another music forum were saying that this show is a relatively tame show compared to others on the Rumours tour. I've always found a lot of the Rumours shows we have on tape to have similar energy. For me, the Tusk tour has always been easier to evaluate and notice the great nights vs average nights.

I haven’t listened to this all the way through but from my first listen to the first few songs, I have to agree with this. If you hear one Monday Morning, Say You Love Me, Oh Well, etc. from the Rumours Tour, you’ve heard them all. I listened to Oh Well and thought this could be the same as the Live Album. It seems as the Tusk Tour evolved the songs really took on a life of their own. I live Stevie’s 75-76 voice on Rhiannon, but the arrangement/solos/jams really took off in 1979-80. By the end of the 1980 leg it’s just sublime. The Chain and GYOW evolved similarly.

[David]

Sonically, this thing sounds very good. The lower end is solid, there’s good clarity, extraneous crowd and electronic noise are mostly under control (the exception seems to be “You Make Loving Fun,” which was the worst-sounding cut on the Live Deluxe last year — there’s something about that arrangement that comes across messily).

A lot of these performances are good, tight Mac with energy, and everyone seems to be in fine voice with leads and harmonies. It may or may not be your favorite Rumours performance — probably not — but I think a few of the tracks stand out for that tour: “Say You Love Me,” “Over My Head,” “World Turning,” “Blue Letter.” What’s so powerful about the set is that it’s a single set and it hangs together like a set. It’s what’s been missing from all the previous groupings of live recordings from different cities. When you listen to this from front to back (or back to front, as Stevie idiotically says), you hear that sensation of coherence in a single night. To me, this is important as a live Mac set because it’s probably the first time we’ve ever heard a professional release in its entirety from a single place and time, except for some radio broadcasts like the Trod Nossel studio concert from 1975 or some pre-1975 stuff. Even the Tusk and Mirage shows released on video were all scrambled and shortened. I really do hope Rhino compiles several more of these things. I wish they could get their hands on a Wild Heart concert — don’t even ask Stevie, just do it — or a Street Angel concert.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by David

Sonically, this thing sounds very good. The lower end is solid, there’s good clarity, extraneous crowd and electronic noise are mostly under control (the exception seems to be “You Make Loving Fun,” which was the worst-sounding cut on the Live Deluxe last year — there’s something about that arrangement that comes across messily).

A lot of these performances are good, tight Mac with energy, and everyone seems to be in fine voice with leads and harmonies. It may or may not be your favorite Rumours performance — probably not — but I think a few of the tracks stand out for that tour: “Say You Love Me,” “Over My Head,” “World Turning,” “Blue Letter.” What’s so powerful about the set is that it’s a single set and it hangs together like a set. It’s what’s been missing from all the previous groupings of live recordings from different cities. When you listen to this from front to back (or back to front, as Stevie idiotically says), you hear that sensation of coherence in a single night. To me, this is important as a live Mac set because it’s probably the first time we’ve ever heard a professional release in its entirety from a single place and time, except for some radio broadcasts like the Trod Nossel studio concert from 1975 or some pre-1975 stuff. Even the Tusk and Mirage shows released on video were all scrambled and shortened. I really do hope Rhino compiles several more of these things. I wish they could get their hands on a Wild Heart concert — don’t even ask Stevie, just do it — or a Street Angel concert.

The GDW sounds familiar to me. Have we heard this before?

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by David

Sonically, this thing sounds very good. The lower end is solid, there’s good clarity, extraneous crowd and electronic noise are mostly under control (the exception seems to be “You Make Loving Fun,” which was the worst-sounding cut on the Live Deluxe last year — there’s something about that arrangement that comes across messily).

A lot of these performances are good, tight Mac with energy, and everyone seems to be in fine voice with leads and harmonies. It may or may not be your favorite Rumours performance — probably not — but I think a few of the tracks stand out for that tour: “Say You Love Me,” “Over My Head,” “World Turning,” “Blue Letter.” What’s so powerful about the set is that it’s a single set and it hangs together like a set. It’s what’s been missing from all the previous groupings of live recordings from different cities. When you listen to this from front to back (or back to front, as Stevie idiotically says), you hear that sensation of coherence in a single night. To me, this is important as a live Mac set because it’s probably the first time we’ve ever heard a professional release in its entirety from a single place and time, except for some radio broadcasts like the Trod Nossel studio concert from 1975 or some pre-1975 stuff. Even the Tusk and Mirage shows released on video were all scrambled and shortened. I really do hope Rhino compiles several more of these things. I wish they could get their hands on a Wild Heart concert — don’t even ask Stevie, just do it — or a Street Angel concert.

There's a guy from Rhino that posts on the Steve Hoffman music forums. He oversaw the reissues for Little Feat. He mentioned there being more projects in the hopper, but it all depended on how well the recent reissues sold. I REALLY hope the same is true for these Fleetwood Mac live releases. The good news is, It looks like this album has sold really well. The vinyl has been in and out of stock at amazon. It would be amazing to see one of those Tusk shows see the light of day in its entirety (Richfield, Omaha, Kansas City, Hollywood Bowl etc)

I'm curious about the Hollywood Bowl tapes. Not a single track has been released via any of the recent reissues/deluxe sets. Either they have been lost, are viewed as being sub-par, or they have them earmarked for a future release and don't want to jump the gun releasing anything.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

The GDW sounds familiar to me. Have we heard this before?

Yes, this is the same GDW that was on third disc of the deluxe live release from 2021.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

There's a guy from Rhino that posts on the Steve Hoffman music forums. He oversaw the reissues for Little Feat. He mentioned there being more projects in the hopper, but it all depended on how well the recent reissues sold. I REALLY hope the same is true for these Fleetwood Mac live releases. The good news is, It looks like this album has sold really well. The vinyl has been in and out of stock at amazon. It would be amazing to see one of those Tusk shows see the light of day in its entirety (Richfield, Omaha, Kansas City, Hollywood Bowl etc)

I'm curious about the Hollywood Bowl tapes. Not a single track has been released via any of the recent reissues/deluxe sets. Either they have been lost, are viewed as being sub-par, or they have them earmarked for a future release and don't want to jump the gun releasing anything.

They’ve been pulling out stuff from random dates all throughout the tour and the Bowl shows if I’m not mistaken we’re originally intended to be the live album, so I’d have to think the tapes are still there just waiting. They released some late August 1980 stuff on the Tusk Deluxe album and while the voices def sound a bit ragged, the band sounds incredible. I had the boot on MP3 years ago and still have it somewhere but I’d love a full Tusk show and one of those final shows would be amazing.

[BigAl84]

It's such a treat to see/hear all of these pristine recordings be released. For decades soundboard tapes were like folklore to fans. Some recordings were leaked over time, but they were often plagued by tape hiss and just not the greatest quality.

[David]

I want a shelf full of these things — well, a decent series of perhaps ten superb shows. I just have no idea what was actually professionally recorded because Ken Caillat and others have contradicted themselves over the years. Wouldn’t it be nice if A REPRESENTATIVE FROM RHINO actually asked us here (or on their website) which particular shows might garner the most interest?

• TROD NOSSEL, WALLINGFORD 1975
• NEW ORLEANS 1975
• PARIS 1977
• OSAKA 1977
• NEW YORK or PHILLY 1978
• LOS ANGELES (WITH TROJANS) 1979
• CLEVELAND 1980
• LA 1980
• DETROIT 1982
• IRVINE 1982
• CLEVELAND 1987

Not to mention a handful of Nicks solo concerts.

• DALLAS 1983
• LOS ANGELES 1983
• OAKLAND 1983 (the elusive show taped for FM radio but never released)
• NEW YORK 1986
• LOS ANGELES 1986
• LAS VEGAS 1994
• SACRAMENTO 1994

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by David

I want a shelf full of these things — well, a decent series of perhaps ten superb shows. I just have no idea what was actually professionally recorded because Ken Caillat and others have contradicted themselves over the years. Wouldn’t it be nice if A REPRESENTATIVE FROM RHINO actually asked us here (or on their website) which particular shows might garner the most interest?

• TROD NOSSEL, WALLINGFORD 1975
• NEW ORLEANS 1975
• PARIS 1977
• OSAKA 1977
• NEW YORK or PHILLY 1978
• LOS ANGELES (WITH TROJANS) 1979
• CLEVELAND 1980
• LA 1980
• DETROIT 1982
• IRVINE 1982
• CLEVELAND 1987

Not to mention a handful of Nicks solo concerts.

• DALLAS 1983
• LOS ANGELES 1983
• OAKLAND 1983 (the elusive show taped for FM radio but never released)
• NEW YORK 1986
• LOS ANGELES 1986
• LAS VEGAS 1994
• SACRAMENTO 1994

Back in my younger days when MP3 sharing was in full effect and I finally had an internet connection that didn’t require a senatorial term to download a song, I used to love discovering these old shows. Melbourne 1980 was an absolute favorite of mine. I haven’t listened in ages but I’m sure I’m hindsight the appeal was the actual recording and the general hissing that prevailed throughout. I also think this is the show with the “this black rose is for all of you who don’t have any energy!” Line from Stevie at the end. I’d love to hear that show in an official capacity!

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Back in my younger days when MP3 sharing was in full effect and I finally had an internet connection that didn’t require a senatorial term to download a song, I used to love discovering these old shows. Melbourne 1980 was an absolute favorite of mine. I haven’t listened in ages but I’m sure I’m hindsight the appeal was the actual recording and the general hissing that prevailed throughout. I also think this is the show with the “this black rose is for all of you who don’t have any energy!” Line from Stevie at the end. I’d love to hear that show in an official capacity!

Was that the show that had a cool echo/reverb effect on Stevie's vocal during Sara?

Edit: found it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhau5Q4NENc

[GJK]

Originally Posted by Murrow

Not totally accurate. The versions of Monday Morning and World Turning both featured on the deluxe Rumours in 2013.

That may be true, but especially World Turning sounds totally different on this new release. The DeLuxe Rumours version sounds like it was recorded on a cheap type 1 cassette tape, the 'new' version sounds much brighter, instruments are in different places (left/middle/right), and Lindsey sounds years younger. It is obviously a remastered version.
The DeLuxe Monday Morning lacks the instrumental intro, and the guitar solo is totally different; it's more a Christine electric piano solo. The new version has a real guitar solo; I think it is another version than the previously released one.

GJK