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It's worked well in the past so I'm sure they aren't changing the formula.
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If we're saying Lindsey is very authentic, honest, non-commercial etc blah blah blah especially in his solo career, does it also make sense to then say he's peddling some age-old 'myth' in his lyrics just to appease a band of hardcore fans? I'm going with the 'sick' option just because he himself said their war was sick. Either way, I'd sure like for Buckingham Nicks to not only become comedians but also actors because apparently they're damn good at it... _ Maybe I've just been holding out too long And maybe I couldn't admit that I was wrong And maybe I've just been lying to myself And no one else Slow down, baby Cross that line If you want to save me It takes time And maybe I've wasted all this precious time Trying to prove what is and isn't mine Wondering to myself if you knew It was all for you I had another dream of you last night Sailing on a sea of blue You were grieving for someone else I was grieving for you Miss Fantasy It may be You don't remember me But I remember you Do you still tremble when I fall? Will you still answer when I call? Would you still love to linger up against the wall? |
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I have to ask the question other people have been asking too: Why would Lindsey still be writing songs about Stevie if it's all a money-making scheme? I don't doubt their onstage antics are largely scripted (however, I don't think that the emotions they're showing are--I think they all genuinely care for one another), but it's a stretch to say that Lindsey sits down to compose a song with the thought "I need to write this about Stevie so that people will take interest in our scripted drama and buy a lot of copies." Yesterday I was listening to the audio of that visit Lindsey did to the USC campus after the "Seeds We Sow" tour. A student asked Lindsey what it was like to work with Stevie again on "Soldier's Angel." Lindsey talked at length about his relationship with Stevie, the nature of it, their history, how he met her when he was sixteen, how he hopes they have "a few more chapters to write" regarding their relationship, etc. Now, the man is speaking to a room full of twenty-somethings--was he talking about Stevie in that way with the intention of making money? I doubt it. The bottom line is this: Lindsey and Stevie have always had a complicated relationship and I think they always will. But they have both expressed interest in continuing to make music together and seem to be getting along much better now, which is nice to see. So what's the problem? |
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I suppose if he talked/wrote about his wife and kids sales would plummet. The fabulous decades long drama looks awful in that light, just Stevie flirting with a married man again.
Okay, I know I'm on ignore with some of the hardcore Rumours/B-N worshippers here from some time back, so I'll trouble your shangri-la no more with reality about abortions and such. You want your fantasy of a great romance but not the actual details. I just hope neither ends up like another figure of hero worship Michael Jackson. Apparently it's hard to sleep at night in these fantasy lands. I'd rather be Peter Green without the massive money; he's saner and more true to his art than anyone. So funny how those who talk most about big loves and all that showy jazz actually do so many inhuman things and leave behind real victims. |
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Outside of Rumours, I don't think that Lindsey believes songs about Stevie are commercial successes -- not for him. He seems to like Big Love an awful lot and that's not about Stevie primarily. He doesn't sell any more records whether he's quoting Emily Dickinson or talking about his wife and kids (It Was You) or singing long live the queen.
So, I think he's writing for his own needs, not to continue drama for the public's sake. I think focused fans really miscalculate the extent to which anyone else cares about what these people write today. I think he thinks writing about complicated relationships and the dynamics between people who have known each other a long time is inherently intriguing and they don't necessarily have to be romantic relationships or not actively romantic anyway. It's the fact that you have this bond and love for people that you don't even LIKE some of the time that makes it fascinating for him. He says they shouldn't have been in a band together, yet he's been through things with him that he hasn't been through with people who were in the same family as him and I think that contradiction continues to stimulate him, emotionally and creatively. A lot of his songs like Peacekeeper or Sad Angel or even Shut Us Down are about work, not a love affair. And I think it's easy to be enthralled by their relationships without wanting them to get married and have babies. What's not fake or fabricated is that some of the people have known each other since the sixties and some have known each other since 1975 and they still are together in one sense or another. That interests me no end. Michele Last edited by michelej1; 07-10-2013 at 01:54 PM.. |
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Well, that went over my head!
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I'm not the man you think I am. My love has never lived indoors - I had to drag it home by four, hired hounds at both my wrists, damp and bruised by strangers' kisses on my lips. But you're the one that I still miss. Neko Case |
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He refers to his wife/kids onstage, in interviews for hardcore fans, in interviews for the general public, all of that. Sales don't plummet because of that. That would be ridiculous. MOST people don't go through FM or LB lyrics before purchasing music going 'oooh! that one's about Stevie and so's that one but if they were about his wife instead then I'd totally not bother with buying the album.' And I'm not sure that they're that calculated re. being careful to tread lightly on the drama-love-r'ship line considering some of the almost unbelievable quotes they've both made on the topic. If they are calculated that much, I'd tell them to get difference advice on how to do so because at times it makes neither of them look particularly healthy or 'over it'... And it's often in conjunction with other quotes about present happiness and contentment with their situation (either single/married) so it doesn't really work as a tool for shipper's fantasies either. I would also venture to say that not all 'shippers' do want to live in some happy fantasy hero-worshipping world with declarations of undying love and ignoring reality. In fact, I think the reality of the situation (and that includes both the present reality of a marriage/kids for Lindsey and also the past realities of some probable really unpleasant times that went down) makes their story and their current interactions MORE interesting. All details do (to me, and whether positive or negative) is give me a clearer picture of these two people and their incredibly flawed and complicated history and relationship. And that r'ship doesn't have to be a current sexual relationship or even a romantic one at all. They're plenty fascinating enough without that Even if I might join Lindsey in his dreaming from time to time... |
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That was my point.
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You should know me by now..
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Yes. They do. Heck, it' seems to be the appointment. Still, the fact that those songs intensions are only moneydriven, does not make them meaningless. They contribute to the legacy, and That's all they got now, in 2013.
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True. Many here have very specific positions that have remained constant for years and I think, in many instances, you can determine what they are mean without emoticons.
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