Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame 2011 Inductees

[Heartboy]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

In there with some of the other members of Fleetwood Mac?

She deserves to be in there as a solo artist! just sayin'!

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by Heartboy

She deserves to be in there as a solo artist! just sayin'!

In that case, so does Debbie Harry.

Oh wait, no.

[DefDumbandBlond]

I can't think of anyone offhand in the R&R Hall of Fame that are in there both with their group and solo anyways.

[Heartboy]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

In that case, so does Debbie Harry.

Oh wait, no.

Nope, Debbie hasn't had much of a success as a solo artist.





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[ButterCookie]

Exactly. She's not changed the world as a solo artist and neither has Stevie. As memebers of their respective bands, they both changed musical history. Ergo, neither really deserve to be inducted as solo artists.

You see?

[DefDumbandBlond]

Originally Posted by Heartboy

Nope, Debbie hasn't had much of a success as a solo artist.





** ***RUNS*****

Yeah, I wouldn't consider having her first solo album going gold very successful, among other songs top hits on dance charts etc.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by DefDumbandBlond

I can't think of anyone offhand in the R&R Hall of Fame that are in there both with their group and solo anyways.

Eric Clapton...he's in THREE times.

Yardbirds
Cream
solo

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I really don't see the big deal about Little Richard or Elvis being the "firsts" to do what they did. If they don't eventually somebody else would've. Don't include them with the list of indictees that are somehow elevated above future inductees including but not limited to Fleetwood Mac.

I mean Elvis just ripped off much more talented black musicians anyway. The original Hounddog is the best example of him ruining a song. Like Nikolaj has already pointed out, the artists who emerged roughly 1962-64ish were trailblazers in making signifigant, memerable, truly great rock and roll, not just the first to "get that ball rolling" which is really what iamnotafraid, Chili and probably tens of thousands out there tend to overly glorify.

You don't know WTF you're talking about. "Overglorify", my ass. No Elvis, No Beatles...simple effing equation. Artists of the '60s, trailblazers? BS, the trail was already paved by the time the 60s came along...yeah, they widened the trail and developed it, but it was already there. There WAS no trail for Elvis, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, et al...they MADE it.

Same f-ing logic...if the Beatles or Stones didn't come along, somebody else would've as well...you can draw the line all the way down the chronology to Eminem....if any of those people didn't come along, somebody else would've. Even go backwards...if JS Bach didn't, then somebody else would've....Beethoven? Brahms? Gershwin? Bernstein? Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? BB King? Doesn't matter.

Elvis was the FIRST R&R KING...I don't give a crap if he was just rippin' off black artists...he made R&R palletable for us honkys...live with it...it's a f-ing historical fact.

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Eric Clapton...he's in THREE times.

Yardbirds
Cream
solo

Yeah but, Clapton is God

[Heartboy]

Originally Posted by DefDumbandBlond

Yeah, I wouldn't consider having her first solo album going gold very successful, among other songs top hits on dance charts etc.

You know, I agree with you both & LOVE Debbie & think she deserves way more credit for her great career. I just like to tease you girls!

[Heartboy]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

Yeah but, Clapton is God

& Stevie is the QUEEN!!

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

Yeah but, Clapton is God

Yep...I'm still waiting for Blind Faith & Derek and the Dominos to be inducted, too.

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by Heartboy

& Stevie is the QUEEN!!

I'll assume you don't know the reasoning behind the whole 'Clapton is God' thing?

And last time I checked, The Queen was livin' it large down south in an actual castle

[Heartboy]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

I'll assume you don't know the reasoning behind the whole 'Clapton is God' thing?

And last time I checked, The Queen was livin' it large down south in an actual castle

Because he's great...I don't know!

Where did the sayin' 'Queen of Rock & Roll' come from then?


If I'm some kind of idiot to you, you've made your point.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Heartboy

Because he's great...I don't know!

Where did the sayin' 'Queen of Rock & Roll' come from then?


If I'm some kind of idiot to you, you've made your point.

Ok, the backstory...when Clapton was in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, graffiti around London started popping up "Clapton Is God". The most famous photo of such graffiti has a retriever pissing on it. (see below)




"Queen Of Rock & Roll"....for a LONG time that title was given to Little Richard (since his gender preference wasn't a real secret even for the '50s)