If you are hoping for a reunion....

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Storms123

This actually saddens me a lot. This story has more legs than an octopus. It really sickens me that this is how this band could go out.

I was really bummed to see that too. Part of me was really thinking that with his whole like, ~forward-looking, innovative creative~ personality thing that while he'd obviously be sad about it, he'd move on pretty quick. Or at least look at it in a different light. That at least helped me feel better about it. So to hear that he's still really upset about it just makes it worse.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Seriously! I mean, I'm sad and my brain understands these 4 people
(specifically one) hurt him. So the idea of him coming back to that environment as if nothing happened and for these 4 people to act as if nothing happened, and to sing Landslide again hugging and holding hands and acting like people who actually love each other is something that I will never understand. I know it will probably happen because that's how twisted they are, but I won't celebrate it and I can't understand how some fans want it to happen when we all know it will be an awful lie.

Just the 5 of them together again smiling fake smiles just for the sake of fans and of their pockets. Awful.

I guess my hope is that they would find a way to forgive each other and that it would be genuine. Obviously, Stevie and Mick would have to take responsibility for their actions and make it up to Lindsey, but stranger things have happened.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Seriously! I mean, I'm sad and my brain understands these 4 people
(specifically one) hurt him. So the idea of him coming back to that environment as if nothing happened and for these 4 people to act as if nothing happened, and to sing Landslide again hugging and holding hands and acting like people who actually love each other is something that I will never understand. I know it will probably happen because that's how twisted they are, but I won't celebrate it and I can't understand how some fans want it to happen when we all know it will be an awful lie.

Just the 5 of them together again smiling fake smiles just for the sake of fans and of their pockets. Awful.

I agree. Couldn't watch it or want to fork out the money for the ticket. And do Mike and Neil step quietly to the side? Nah, I'm over this charade. Give me Lindsey solo or another BuckVie, and I'll be happy.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by jwd

I agree. Couldn't watch it or want to fork out the money for the ticket. And do Mike and Neil step quietly to the side? Nah, I'm over this charade. Give me Lindsey solo or another BuckVie, and I'll be happy.

I don't want another Buckvie--she's as guilty as the rest. If Stevie and Mick don't get a pass--Christine shouldn't either. Her ex-husband and his bestie have been in her life forever---well Lindsey's been in Stevie's life forever too. That's not a pass for this. The 5 of them own this disaster, break up....." Go your own ways"... I truly think another Buck Vie would be as fake as a "Landslide" or "Sara" hug. If they are going to end it---end it. Send a mass card when one of them kicks it and move on.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I guess my hope is that they would find a way to forgive each other and that it would be genuine. Obviously, Stevie and Mick would have to take responsibility for their actions and make it up to Lindsey, but stranger things have happened.

I heard from different camps that he wants to be back with the band, so I guess I'm more angry with Lindsey than with Mick/Stevie.
I know they had many fights/disagreements in the past but with so many reports of Lindsey's current state of mind I can only imagine how awful things went between them in that meeting nobody wants to talk about.

Sure, they can all make up and sing together again, but I doubt it's gonna be a sincere and heartfelt scene. Stevie is probably now angry because of all the backlash, and she's probably blaming him.

My hopes of a sincere reunion are pretty Slim. Too much has probably been said and done this time to let everything go away and just go on with the show.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by Storms123

I don't want another Buckvie--she's as guilty as the rest. If Stevie and Mick don't get a pass--Christine shouldn't either. Her ex-husband and his bestie have been in her life forever---well Lindsey's been in Stevie's life forever too. That's not a pass for this. The 5 of them own this disaster, break up....." Go your own ways"... I truly think another Buck Vie would be as fake as a "Landslide" or "Sara" hug. If they are going to end it---end it. Send a mass card when one of them kicks it and move on.

Yes. Sorry but I don't buy Christine's long face with Anthony Mason. She could have said 'no', yet it was easier to stay quiet. BuckVie would be as fake as a Rumours 5 reunion.

Mass card? If things are as bad as KB is saying, I don't think we will even get that kind of bittersweet reunion.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by Storms123

I don't want another Buckvie--she's as guilty as the rest. If Stevie and Mick don't get a pass--Christine shouldn't either. Her ex-husband and his bestie have been in her life forever---well Lindsey's been in Stevie's life forever too. That's not a pass for this. The 5 of them own this disaster, break up....." Go your own ways"... I truly think another Buck Vie would be as fake as a "Landslide" or "Sara" hug. If they are going to end it---end it. Send a mass card when one of them kicks it and move on.

I don't think Christine had a heavy hand in orchestrating what happened with Lindsey. She was somewhat blindsided by what happened. True she went along with the band. But in my mind I just see Christine's and Lindsey's relationship being so much more real and artistically intertwined than, well you know who.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by jwd

I don't think Christine had a heavy hand in orchestrating what happened with Lindsey. She was somewhat blindsided by what happened. True she went along with the band. But in my mind I just see Christine's and Lindsey's relationship being so much more real and artistically intertwined than, well you know who.

But she's touring with them. Blindsided sure, and that I buy, but now she's wearing it, just like the rest of them If she's willing to tour with this incarnation of Fleetwood Mac....she supports it. She owns this like the rest of them do. And oddly enough, I think S & L are more artistically intertwined than C & L. But the appreciation b/w C& L is far more sincere (well...not anymore) so I see where you are coming from

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I heard from different camps that he wants to be back with the band , so I guess I'm more angry with Lindsey than with Mick/Stevie.
I know they had many fights/disagreements in the past but with so many reports of Lindsey's current state of mind I can only imagine how awful things went between them in that meeting nobody wants to talk about.

If that's actually true then he must be really, REALLY hurting about this. Because typically I'd think Lindsey is the type of person whose pride is too strong to ever want to go back after a situation like this.
And I think back to Kristen's word choice when she referred to the situation. It would be one thing if she just said they were shady band members or unfair or ungrateful. But she called it the "cruelest move she'd ever seen" and said Lindsey didn't deserve it. That kind of description is pretty telling.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Storms123

But she's touring with them. Blindsided sure, and that I buy, but now she's wearing it, just like the rest of them If she's willing to tour with this incarnation of Fleetwood Mac....she supports it. She owns this like the rest of them do. And oddly enough, I think S & L are more artistically intertwined than C & L. But the appreciation b/w C& L is far more sincere (well...not anymore) so I see where you are coming from

IA. I've always thought Christine and Lindsey worked together great and got along fine and obviously were fond of each other but people looked at their relationship through rose colored glasses because of BuckVie. In the end she could've thrown her own power around if she was so blindsided by what happened but she didn't. In the end I sadly think no one in this band is loyal to anyone except Mick and Stevie to each other. And we had to see that proven in an ugly way.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by Storms123

But she's touring with them. Blindsided sure, and that I buy, but now she's wearing it, just like the rest of them If she's willing to tour with this incarnation of Fleetwood Mac....she supports it. She owns this like the rest of them do. And oddly enough, I think S & L are more artistically intertwined than C & L. But the appreciation b/w C& L is far more sincere (well...not anymore) so I see where you are coming from

I agree, she has to share some of the blame. But the way I look at it, is that if and when FM disbands or stops touring, perhaps because of lack of public interest, I definitely see a better chance of Christine and Lindsey working together again, than Stevie and Lindsey. They have a better working music relationship. You know, they both know more than three chords. I actually think they are better friends than Stevie and Lindsey and have more mutual respect for each other. I've never thought of Lindsey's and Christine's relationship as being fake.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jwd

I don't think Christine had a heavy hand in orchestrating what happened with Lindsey. She was somewhat blindsided by what happened. True she went along with the band. But in my mind I just see Christine's and Lindsey's relationship being so much more real and artistically intertwined than, well you know who.

Probably, but she threw it all away when she kept silent and did nothing after she knew what had happened. Once he was fired, they were all told to avoid Lindsey's calls and of course Christine wasn't the exception. But she's probably the one with more chances to rebuild a normal relationship with him.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Probably, but she threw it all away when she kept silent and did nothing after she knew what had happened. Once he was fired, they were all told to avoid Lindsey's calls and of course Christine wasn't the exception. But she's probably the one with more chances to rebuild a normal relationship with him.

I never heard that. Avoid Lindsey's calls? Wow! That hurts.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jwd

I agree, she has to share some of the blame. But the way I look at it, is that if and when FM disbands or stops touring, perhaps because of lack of public interest, I definitely see a better chance of Christine and Lindsey working together again, than Stevie and Lindsey. They have a better working music relationship. You know, they both know more than three chords. I actually think they are better friends than Stevie and Lindsey and have more mutual respect for each other. I've never thought of Lindsey's and Christine's relationship as being fake.

I can't imagine Stevie and Lindsey working together again. Ever. Even before Lindsey was fired there was clearly a lot of bad blood between them. That's why I can't understand why he wants to be back.

Lindsey and Christine friends? I don't think so. They fit well profesionally but I don't see a friendship there.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jwd

I never heard that. Avoid Lindsey's calls? Wow! That hurts.

Trust me, I even cried when I heard that.

I don't know who gave the order. It probably wasn't Mick or Stevie but it's cruel anyway.