Lindsey live on KBCO FM Boulder, CO - Page 6

Maccafan5000 · #76 08-12-2008, 10:51 AM

Thanks so much MacMan!! I was listening again online and trying to figure out if I could make it an MP3. Thanks so much for sharing and being brilliant (and always having amazing banners on top of everything). And thanks to everyone else for sharing the info, link, and webshots since I wasn't able to listen the first time around.

gldstwmn · #77 08-12-2008, 12:28 PM

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In contrast I could listen to the album version od DYMM over and over again. I think its really up there with the best of Lindsey's "pop" efforts

Absolutely. And I think he shows here that he hasn't lost his ear at all. He just doesn't feel like using it all the time.

Peestie · #78 08-12-2008, 01:27 PM

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I Dont like that version of Time Precious Time. Its far too over engineered, there is no need for half of that guitar work.
I would say my ears and head would get sore if I had to listen to it over and over.

How's it over engineered? It's only got some delay on the guitar and that's it. Do you mean the guitar playing itself is over engineered?

I like it, apart from the fact that during the first chorus it sounds like he makes a bit of a mess of the guitar. It's a pretty striking song. I can't wait to hear the studio version of it.

louielouie2000 · #79 08-12-2008, 02:11 PM

I'm listening to Did You Miss Me right now... why can't he produce his albums to sound more like his live performances? This rendition totally nailed the essence of the subject matter of this song, IMO. His albums are often SO overproduced to the point they lose their own way. The crazy quasi digitized vocals and stuff just totally distract from what he's trying to get across.

BTFLCHLD · #80 08-12-2008, 02:22 PM

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what he's trying to get across.

and that would be what?

louielouie2000 · #81 08-12-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

and that would be what?

I'm just trying to say that the silly digi vocals and overproduction of some of his work hides the raw talent Lindsey actually is. The overproduction also distracts away from the point of some of his songs, the subject matter of what he's singing about... you're focusing more on the production vs the meat and potatoes of what it's actually about. Just my humble two cents!

gretchen · #82 08-12-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I'm just trying to say that the silly digi vocals and overproduction of some of his work hides the raw talent Lindsey actually is. The overproduction also distracts away from the point of some of his songs, the subject matter of what he's singing about... you're focusing more on the production vs the meat and potatoes of what it's actually about. Just my humble two cents!

Lindsey is just doing what he feels a song needs, wants and deserves...nothing more, nothing less.

Granted you are entitled to your opinion, but just try to see through the "distractions" from time to time and the raw talent will seep through like delicious warm chocolate.

BTFLCHLD · #83 08-12-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I'm just trying to say that the silly digi vocals and overproduction of some of his work hides the raw talent Lindsey actually is. The overproduction also distracts away from the point of some of his songs, the subject matter of what he's singing about... you're focusing more on the production vs the meat and potatoes of what it's actually about. Just my humble two cents!

oh. thought perhaps you had some inside track on what Lindsey is trying to get across. btw, I am not focusing on anything. Though, I am excited about listening to the music.

sodascouts · #84 08-17-2008, 07:25 PM

Sigh. Listening to this reminds me of why I love Lindsey so much! Terrific performance of Did You Miss Me.

Time Precious Time seems very difficult to perform live. It was ambitious of him to attempt it. His vocal struggled a bit as a result, but you can hardly blame him. Focusing on its musicality - I like the verses better than the chorus where the "Time Precious Time" seems a little too repetitive and a bit out of rhythm with the playing (deliberate or the result of it being done live?), but I find the guitar part exciting throughout. He puts a lot of emotion into the lyrics - he really sells them as being heartfelt.

louielouie2000 - I totally agree with you regarding overproduction. I've always felt that way whenever he chooses to make everything sound unnatural with his production.

David · #85 08-17-2008, 09:30 PM

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The overproduction also distracts away from the point of some of his songs, the subject matter of what he's singing about... you're focusing more on the production vs the meat and potatoes of what it's actually about.

I no longer connect with him because of that.

ajmccarrell · #86 08-18-2008, 11:40 AM

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I no longer connect with him because of that.

My basic thought on production is that it should not sound produced, but sound as natural as possible, and that you should be shooting to capture the raw energy that would be produced by playing a track live. I don't hear that from him lately. Too many vocal contrails and weird reverbs in the last two albums with wheezy vocals. It would have been better to do a short reverb for the vocals on most of these tracks. Sure everyone does it, but there's a reason.

John Run · #87 08-18-2008, 11:55 AM

I don't necessarily think that studio production has to always be as close to the live sound as possible. Lindsey has always tended to produce things in the studio that could not be completely reproduced live, at least not without an army of musicians and singers. I don't mind that. A beautifully constructed song in the studio and then a more raw, simple version of that song live is pretty cool for me.

Now as many of my posts of have alluded to; the choices Lindsey made regarding production and engineering choices on Say You Will and Under The Skin did leave me kind of cold. Regarding vocals; too much distortion, effects, whispering and not enough singing.

Did You Miss Me does work for me. Right now, I like it. It has an updated Law and Order/Mirage sound that I am enjoying.

estranged4life · #88 08-19-2008, 12:06 AM

Thanks for the mp3 link, I'm burning a copy as we speak...

Listened to it last night, and I hate to say I was bored silly. "Time Precious Time" is more like "Snore Boring Snore" - and I am kinda sick of hearing "Big Love".

David · #89 08-19-2008, 09:24 AM

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Too many vocal contrails and weird reverbs in the last two albums with wheezy vocals.

Yes, it's his aesthetic choices -- his conceptions -- that repel me. Gielgud once said about Olivier that, while he (Gielgud) typically admired Olivier's execution, he often didn't care for his conception. I feel the same way about LB's recordings & orchestration from the '90s to the present (which I admit covers wide territory).

I've also heard & read about changing styles of mastering & compression in today's recordings, which create a sort of airless, forced gain. When I play SAY YOU WILL in any of my CD players (none of which is high end), the effect on my hearing is akin to being underwater: the balance & instrument delineation I expect (& loved in Fleetwood Mac albums of the '70s & early '80s) isn't there -- or if it's there, my various pieces of equipment don't reproduce it accurately. When you listen to concert recording these days, you can hear that something has changed in terms of both the technology & the desired conception. Listen to the Fleetwood Mac concert in Irvine that was recorded for the Westwood One Superstars Rock Concert radio show: the sound field is stuffed full, & even a subdued acoustic number doesn't breathe. It's like listening to a homemade channel separation mix off a DVD-Audio player.

The effect is so severe in my case that I haven't liked the sound of any Mac-related project since TANGO (although Christine's last album -- which Dashut worked on, I think -- had none of these aural blemishes).

Peestie · #90 08-22-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by David

I've also heard & read about changing styles of mastering & compression in today's recordings, which create a sort of airless, forced gain.

If you go to any of the audio recording forums you'll see plenty of people (mostly professionals) complaining about this. That's why I'm looking forward to the vinyl/CD release which has a different master to the standard CD product. It calls it "uncompressed" but I'd be shocked if it really was uncompressed. What they probably mean is "less compressed" but considering just how compressed many modern CDs are it could still be very compressed.