I guess Lindsey did have a job at one time... - Page 4

strandinthewind · #46 02-11-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Les

Are you sure Stevie wasn't describing one or two incidents over and over and over because she enjoys how it makes her look and how it makes Lindsey look?

who knows and I never heard LB deny it - of course it is possible his memory is foggy

In the end - she willingly worked and took care of him. Who are we to judge

Les · #47 02-11-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

The fact that it took him so long to realize it wouldn't be smart to absorb all the losses by himself is very telling about his view of reality.

That's certainly one very cutting view to take, isn't it? There are others one could take that suggest he was turning himself inside out exploring all options to figure out a way to make the double album, and then upon further consideration, decided it wasn't healthy to his life to shoulder all of the pressure alone.

strandinthewind · #48 02-11-2005, 01:09 PM

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No he prefers to torture me with Silver Girl.

Diss. and I could both get you with that one as we are both fans of it - though it seemingly could be lumped into his insufferable nomenclature

dissention · #49 02-11-2005, 01:10 PM

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No he prefers to torture me with Silver Girl.

While giving you Nicks' "ThisIsSeeeeeeeerious" look and making every possible thing that happens about him.

strandinthewind · #50 02-11-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Les

That's certainly one very cutting view to take, isn't it? There are others one could take that suggest he was turning himself inside out exploring all options to figure out a way to make the double album, and then upon further consideration, decided it wasn't healthy to his life to shoulder all of the pressure alone.

we are talking about Diss here - pretty much everything is either black or white - no inbetweens

and lord love him for it

Les · #51 02-11-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

who knows and I never heard LB deny it - of course it is possible his memory is foggy

In the end - she willingly worked and took care of him. Who are we to judge

Who are we to judge? Seems like lots of us are pretty willing to judge based on this thread. LB, man what a lazy ass loser.

Has LB denied it? Not that I know of. Of course LB doesn't really talk very much about his life pre-FM in any regard.

strandinthewind · #52 02-11-2005, 01:11 PM

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Some people just need mummy's.

So come on, where's this bread you're supposed to be winning? I suffer your singing of Stevie's tunes and bizarre spanking techniques, chop chop.

whole wheat, rye, seven grain . . . .

strandinthewind · #53 02-11-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Les

Who are we to judge? Seems like lots of us are pretty willing to judge based on this thread. LB, man what a lazy ass loser.

Has LB denied it? Not that I know of. Of course LB doesn't really talk very much about his life pre-FM in any regard.

I never called him that and have repeatedly qualified my statements as such. I just said the stories indicate he did not work and Stevie did and who would blame him for that - what guy does not want a hottie servicing him.

Now - Diss is judging him and alienating affections at the same time

dissention · #54 02-11-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Diss. and I could both get you with that one as we are both fans of it - though it seemingly could be lumped into his insufferable nomenclature

Not as insufferable as Say You Will, Thrown Down, and Illume. Christ, I pray that I go deaf when the album nears those songs. Her doe-eyed woman-child schtick has gotten so old.

Nah, I like Silver Girl to a degree, I don't try to hide it.

dissention · #55 02-11-2005, 01:17 PM

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Who are we to judge? Seems like lots of us are pretty willing to judge based on this thread. LB, man what a lazy ass loser.

I don't judge him, I just think that all the facts we know about point to him being lazy. Doesn't make him a bad person or bad musician, just lazy at that point in time.

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Has LB denied it? Not that I know of. Of course LB doesn't really talk very much about his life pre-FM in any regard.

Seeing as how he's had the same "cycles" script for almost ten years, no, he doesn't talk of it much.

dissention · #56 02-11-2005, 01:22 PM

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Well in that case I'll just stick with Jason. Torture is one thing, but multiple tortures is taking it too far. Although I trust that you wouldn't turn my suffering and a rather immobile state into some dramatic story about what you had to endure.

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't write an insufferable song about it, either.

Les · #57 02-11-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

He's a grown man, no one twisted his arm.

And even grown men don't get to do everything precisely as they want to at every moment in life.

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"Insufferable" is my opinion.

Yes, it was. But you were framing your argument as if it were part of his opinion.

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The fact that he opted to turn it into yet another Mac project with insufferable Stevie Nicks songs after his album had been rejected in the nineties makes it obvious that money was part of the equation.

Sure, but that doesn't make it the only part of the equation.

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No, it isn't. Keep up, dear.

LOL, yeah sorry. Trying to follow the debate logically is probably silly if the other keeps shifting the ground to suit their points.

Les · #58 02-11-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I don't judge him...

LOL! What thread have I been reading?

He really is a piece of work...
I don't know what kind of person sits at home all day twiddling a guitar and smoking weed while…
He was a bum...

strandinthewind · #59 02-11-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Les

LOL! What thread have I been reading?

He really is a piece of work...
I don't know what kind of person sits at home all day twiddling a guitar and smoking weed while…
He was a bum...

again - it is black or white - it is good or bad

It took me awhile to get used to that

Les · #60 02-11-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, no

I think the two cannot be easily separated as they occured in the same general argument.

Well, yes, I think they can. One was made when he was trying to convince a bandmate who is overly fixated on the money to look at something else. The other was made after several band fights and after looking at the possibilities of shouldering all financial losses on his own

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I got the impression overall that LB was very worried about the commercial success of this record and how it would affect his life. I think he just refused to believe that a double CD would not sell.

Okay. I didn't get that same impression at all. I think he knew he needed to think about commercial concerns, but he didn't want to let that be too much of a determining factor that shaped the album. I also think he absolutely knew a double album would sell less and that was the whole reason for trying to come up with an analogy that would appeal to Mick's artistry and might remove some of the sting from probably making less money.