Bets on a new album? - Page 3

chiliD · #31 03-17-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David

There's only one guitarist -- Lindsey -- & I don't think he is covering all the guitar work we're hearing.

Sure he could...thanks to a "loop sampling" effect unit (adding some delay, too). Boss RC20XL Loop Station (from Musician's Friend.com) After the first few bars, that part comes around again, and he's doubling what he played the first time through, then it comes around again, and he's playing over the first two parts, until it eventually gets to sounding like four or five guitars playing at once (or three 12-string guitars).

There are also a few types of vocal doublers/harmonizers (here's one for example) TC Electronics Voice Doubler (from Musician's Friend.com)

What I'd like to hear from Lindsey is just his guitar and his voice, undoctored by effects (except for some ever so slight delay/reverb for his voice)

shackin'up · #32 03-17-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

What I'd like to hear from Lindsey is just his guitar and his voice, undoctored by effects (except for some ever so slight delay/reverb for his voice)

Well, Chili, listen to Shut Us Down, NGBA, Trouble, Go Insane from his last tour.

Peestie · #33 03-17-2008, 02:05 PM

That's cool stuff. How likely is it that he'd be using one of those. To be honest I'd just assumed it was whatever effect/delay he was using that gave that sort of sound.

David · #34 03-18-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

Sure he could...thanks to a "loop sampling" effect unit (adding some delay, too). Boss RC20XL Loop Station (from Musician's Friend.com) After the first few bars, that part comes around again, and he's doubling what he played the first time through, then it comes around again, and he's playing over the first two parts, until it eventually gets to sounding like four or five guitars playing at once (or three 12-string guitars).

There are also a few types of vocal doublers/harmonizers (here's one for example) TC Electronics Voice Doubler (from Musician's Friend.com)

What I'd like to hear from Lindsey is just his guitar and his voice, undoctored by effects (except for some ever so slight delay/reverb for his voice)

Well that's exactly what I'm talking about. These performances nowadays are more Memorex than live.

I guess that's why RED ROVER sounds so good (& so much like the album).

Sarah · #35 03-19-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Well that's exactly what I'm talking about. These performances nowadays are more Memorex than live.

I guess that's why RED ROVER sounds so good (& so much like the album).

o_O

in my world, it's still considered "live" because he actually played it "live"... the machine is just looping that previously played live part while he plays another part live...

do you guys want he should have another army of guitarists? or perhaps it'd be more "authentic" if the song was left practically empty because using available technology threatens the sanctity of live music? hmm.

bucklind17 · #36 03-19-2008, 08:37 PM

There are recording artists who have used recording technology such as what Lindsey likely uses for songs like "Red Rover" to build their entire career. When used correctly and well, it's essentially like a whole other instrument. I've seen some pretty complicated processes and it can be very interesting and exciting, and in some situations, the best way to re-create the sound of a song that is pretty complicated musically.

David · #37 03-20-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

in my world, it's still considered "live" because he actually played it "live"... the machine is just looping that previously played live part while he plays another part live...

I don't know what sort of hardware & software they're using onstage, but if it's some sort of looping/sampling playback technology & it requires that an initial signal be sent/played, then let's call the whole thing partly live & partly Memorex. Thomas Dolby does the same thing when he performs his great love song "I Love You Goodbye." Fleetwood Mac's been using prefab triggered sources at least as far back as the Tusk tour, when Jeff Sova "played" both the Dodger Stadium crowd sounds & a modification of the Bartner brass arrangement on a loop triggered by an Oberheim on the song "Tusk" (& did much the same thing on the Mirage tour). Certainly each succeeding Fleetwood Mac tour used similar technology -- probably more & more with time & advancements -- for live performances of "Seven Wonders," "Little Lies," "Everywhere," etc. Ditto for Lindsey's early '90s tour (with its elephant honk, real or simulated). So I don't mean to imply that this dialing in is new this year. I'm just curious about what all is happening.

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do you guys want he should have another army of guitarists? or perhaps it'd be more "authentic" if the song was left practically empty because using available technology threatens the sanctity of live music? hmm.

I'll repeat my words from Post #34, above:

"I guess that's why RED ROVER sounds so good (& so much like the album)."

billwebster · #38 03-21-2008, 06:30 AM

Even though I'd only believe it when I hold it in my hands, a new Lindsey solo album, the long-rumored "rock album" he has been working on with producer Rob Cavallo, would be a real treat.

Madness Fades · #39 03-21-2008, 09:05 AM

Wouldnt it be great if there were 11 or 12 BRAND NEW Rock Songs done from scratch. Nothing taken / copied from GOS or anything. Just new great songs which sound similar to GYOW, EOTW, TOF, COME, countdown etc etc

Just a load of catchy beats with a few good lyrics a small solo in the middle then one great complex solo at the end, that nodody else can do or tab out. Thats all it takes.

Bring it on I have definately been awaiting the release of a rock album much more than the release of Under the Skin, ever since I was told they were gonna be released "back to back".

michelej1 · #40 03-21-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Madness Fades

Bring it on I have definately been awaiting the release of a rock album much more than the release of Under the Skin, ever since I was told they were gonna be released "back to back".

But last year Lindsey started backing away from the idea that it would be a rock album. He started saying that it might be more acoustic once again. In fact, he noted that some people were under the impression that it would be a "rock" album, as if we just developed that impression ourselves and he had nothing to do with it! So, I no longer really expect a rock album, perhaps 3-4 harder songs, but not an album full. Still I do expect to hear Countdown, You Do or You Don't, Wrong, etc. in concert at some point -- or else I will heckle him at every single show.

Michele

Betsy · #41 03-21-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Still I do expect to hear Countdown, You Do or You Don't, Wrong, etc. in concert at some point -- or else I will heckle him at every single show.

Michele

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