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Old 03-23-2017, 10:19 AM
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I'll be totally honest about the whole thing. I'm excited for this album. Those two with Mick and John should sound like vintage Mac. Anything similar to Tango and I will love it. However. I'm so gutted that Stevie won't be on it. They need her voice in the mix. Just listen to Little Lies. When she comes in the chorus with "Tell me lies" it gives me chills.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to it nonetheless.
I'm glad you're into it! I'm over the Stevie part.

In 2014 I was thinking Magic 5 Tour w/ new album. All 5 record the album followed by a World Tour. And I couldn't imagine her not wanting to do that with her old bandmate Christine. It did break my heart a bit that she didn't record with them.

Nowadays, I'm so glad she's not there and didn't record with them. I let go.
The music will be about the duet. And as they say, a splinter of the group. It should be interesting. I almost wish and hope John and Mick are only on parts of the album.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:55 AM
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I won't hold my breath for any awards. I don't care about sales either. But I do hope it gets good critical reviews. That's what I will consider important.

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This puzzled me at first because I think music critics are almost as bad as film critics, but it did remind me how all the reviews for SYW commented on how it just isn't Mac without Christine. (Probably similar to Behind the Mask and The Time). Sooooooo, I the challenge is if critics will say: "Nicks' presence is missed." And, frankly, how can it not be? But it would be too bad if that's the critical line on this release. Christine, after all, was a SIGNIFYING absence on SYW. Among other wonders that album provides.
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I'll be totally honest about the whole thing. I'm excited for this album. Those two with Mick and John should sound like vintage Mac. Anything similar to Tango and I will love it. However. I'm so gutted that Stevie won't be on it. They need her voice in the mix. Just listen to Little Lies. When she comes in the chorus with "Tell me lies" it gives me chills.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to it nonetheless.
I agree, James.
I am looking forward to the new music.
But, I will miss Stevie's voice and Stevie songs.....and that's just how it is.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:30 PM
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This puzzled me at first because I think music critics are almost as bad as film critics, but it did remind me how all the reviews for SYW commented on how it just isn't Mac without Christine. (Probably similar to Behind the Mask and The Time). Sooooooo, I the challenge is if critics will say: "Nicks' presence is missed." And, frankly, how can it not be? But it would be too bad if that's the critical line on this release. Christine, after all, was a SIGNIFYING absence on SYW. Among other wonders that album provides.

I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album. You wouldn't claim 'Stevie is missed' when referring to a Lindsey or Christine solo album. A person cant be missed if its a new entity. As for Say You Will- Lindsey and Stevie really were polar opposites in many ways- musically, they've moved away from each other so much since Buckingham Nicks. Christine really was missed as the bridge in-between them. Chris and Lindsey are more of a natural fit together.
Of course Stevie will be missed- we all would prefer a full Fleetwood Mac album. However, I feel sure that wont be the be all and end all as far as the critics are concerned. I think all the evidence we have of them working together in the past really bodes well for something that could be special and garner real critical acclaim.
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anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......
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anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......
Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:17 PM
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Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?
yeah, maybe it's just me but I don't think of Cher as a rocker. I like her; but I t think of her as a Vegas act for whatever reason, probably because she was doing big Vegas shows decades before any real rockers.

Tina stopped touring quite a while ago.

Dolly for sure.

Joan is selling out arenas?? It must be a double or triple bill
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Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.
The only one I can think of on top of my head is maybe Patti Smith?
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anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......
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yeah, maybe it's just me but I don't think of Cher as a rocker. I like her; but I t think of her as a Vegas act for whatever reason, probably because she was doing big Vegas shows decades before any real rockers.
Yes, Sonny and Cher started doing Vegas shows even before they got their tv show. And Cher has never stopped doing them since, as a solo.

Ha ha, but I will classify her punkish version of Sonny's Bang Bang as a rock song.

And let me take a moment and praise Needles and Pins, while I'm here. I am proud of my guy, even though if he'd have lived, given the climate these days, I'd probably wish he would ski into a tree.

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Yes, Sonny and Cher started doing Vegas shows even before they got their tv show. And Cher has never stopped doing them since, as a solo.

Ha ha, but I will classify her punkish version of Sonny's Bang Bang as a rock song.

And let me take a moment and praise Needles and Pins, while I'm here. I am proud of my guy, even though if he'd have lived, given the climate these days, I'd probably wish he would ski into a tree.

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Needles and Pins is one of my favourite golden oldies especially by The Searchers.
For years I thought Jackie de Shannon wrote it and was way surprised when I found out Sonny Bono wrote it.....cool song from way back.
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I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album. You wouldn't claim 'Stevie is missed' when referring to a Lindsey or Christine solo album.
I would. I always feel that way when I hear any of their solo albums: "If only..." and, of course, even solo I feel they are singing to each other--across albums rather than across or within songs.
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Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?
Joan Jett is touring this summer opening for Boston who are mostly a revolving door of members alongside Tom Scholz.

Plus, she's 10 years younger than Stevie.

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I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album.
Uh....because it is a Fleetwood Mac Album. But not named so because she''s not there. No other reason.
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Uh....because it is a Fleetwood Mac Album. But not named so because she''s not there. No other reason.
Yep. What he said. No other reason. It's absolute B.S.
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