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Old 01-04-2010, 10:45 AM
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Whoa - was there any need for the sracasm there?! I had always heard that the album suffered a lack of promotion and had accepted that as received wisdom. You could have just simply said that I was wrong and listed what promotion was done for the record.

Now that you have oh so politely corrected me I will be sure not to make such sweeping statements again without checking that I know every single detail of something before commenting on it.
I apologize that I lumped you in with those who cling to the belief that the reason why the album wasn't successful had to have been a problem with the promotion & not the product/timing. I especially should have taken into consideration that you are in the UK- they/Lindsey promoted the hell out of the album over here. Sadly, you are correct when you infer that the generally accepted belief is that Warners could have done better (although its worth noting when you ask any of these people what they would have done differently, they never have any response)
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:11 PM
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I apologize that I lumped you in with those who cling to the belief that the reason why the album wasn't successful had to have been a problem with the promotion & not the product/timing. Sadly, you are correct when you infer that the generally accepted belief is that Warners could have done better (although its worth noting when you ask any of these people what they would have done differently, they never have any response)
I'm still one who thinks WB/Reprise could do better. The people in radio
that I work with had no idea at all that Under The Skin or Live At
Bass Hall was even out. I personally got some airtime for those releases.

The second point about WB/Reprise is they sometimes treat you like they
are doing you a favor when sending out promotional materials. And they
are among the slowest responders in the music business, at least in my
experience.

That said, I am talking about Lindsey's last three releases and not OOTC.
And of course they have to be realistic about sales, but I do not like a
defeatest attitude. And that's exactly what WB brings to the table on
some of their releases. You never win with that type of an attitude in
any business. Same goes for life, at least in my experience.

In the end Warner/Reprise wouldn't give Lindsey the time of day if it
weren't for the back-catalog of Fleetwood Mac. And to a lesser degree
a possible new album from the group.
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I would tend to agree with LukeA that WB pushed OOTC aggressively and that even fawning notices in the media were unable to give it much momentum. I do recall seeing lots and lots of print ads, reviews and interviews in mainstream rags like People and Rolling Stone as well as seeing the videos in constant rotation on VH1. But I have to admit that the first I saw/heard from OOTC was the video for "Wrong," which, fittingly enough, was the wrong song for a lead-off single. My initial impression was "WTF was that?" It's not your typical melodic, catchy Lindsey song. It was definitely quirky but really had no reason being a single, let alone an album track. "Countdown" should have been the lead off single. By the time that single/video was released, OOTC was already damaged goods.

In hindsight, I think expectations were sky high, and the assumption was that OOTC would benefit from the momentum of TITN. But that was five years ago, and Fleetwood Mac had already released an album (and somewhat sullied the FM brand) in the interim. Although five years between albums is not so unusual these days, back then it was an eternity. Without the internet to keep your fanbase alive, you were pretty much forgotten if you weren't out there recording and touring constantly. So after five years of not a peep from LiddyBuck, what was everyone expecting?

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