Where Is Sharon? Orlando 5-25

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Good for Billy and Rick for actually having made new music in FM!

In everybody's defense, the music business is a completely different world than in was 33 years ago.

While I would never defend $tevie, nothing is going to sell a million copies these days. Especially from a dinosaur band. 33 years ago, they had a chance, and BTM sold over a million worldwide(500K in the U.S.). But now, it could only be a labor of love. BuckVie only sold 60K copies. $tevie doesn't see 60K as worth her time. That's why Lindsey and Christine were still artists, while $tevie just wants to sell seats, dredging up the same old crap we've been hearing for 45 years. Only with a really crappy voice, now.

That said, I absolutely worship the BuckVie album. It's my swan song from my band. The last couple of $tevie albums I've heard were just as boring AF.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

In everybody's defense, the music business is a completely different world than in was 33 years ago.

While I would never defend $tevie, nothing is going to sell a million copies these days. Especially from a dinosaur band. 33 years ago, they had a chance, and BTM sold over a million worldwide(500K in the U.S.). But now, it could only be a labor of love. BuckVie only sold 60K copies. $tevie doesn't see 60K as worth her time. That's why Lindsey and Christine were still artists, while $tevie just wants to sell seats, dredging up the same old crap we've been hearing for 45 years. Only with a really crappy voice, now.

I could get behind what Stevie believes about the albums, though what she says publicly is different, if her concerts were actually special, unique events; they're not and they're like the shows she tailored for the casino audiences she was playing post-TISL. If you're not releasing new music, dive into your catalogue and do at LEAST 5 album tracks. Give the hits eaters Stand Back, Edge of Seventeen, and Stop Draggin' My Heart Around and some BD tracks (since she says it was a blockbuster album) like Think About It, After the Glitter Fades, and Kind of Woman. And actually return your hit songs to your concerts: Talk To Me, Rooms On Fire, I Can't Wait. But the problem with Stevie's shows is out of 18 songs, you go in knowing you'll hear 15 certain songs for sure.

Now Stevie publicly says she doesn't care if anybody buys the music, she does it for her own pleasure. Meanwhile in Mick's second book he writes we will be ready for Stevie to participate in the next Fleetwood Mac album
That's forever in print now and Mick said it.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

That's why Lindsey and Christine were still artists, while $tevie just wants to sell seats

Another way of saying it is Lindsey and Christine wanted to be artists, while Stevie wants to be a rock star.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I could get behind what Stevie believes about the albums, though what she says publicly is different, if her concerts were actually special, unique events; they're not and they're like the shows she tailored for the casino audiences she was playing post-TISL. If you're not releasing new music, dive into your catalogue and do at LEAST 5 album tracks. Give the hits eaters Stand Back, Edge of Seventeen, and Stop Draggin' My Heart Around and some BD tracks (since she says it was a blockbuster album) like Think About It, After the Glitter Fades, and Kind of Woman. And actually return your hit songs to your concerts: Talk To Me, Rooms On Fire, I Can't Wait. But the problem with Stevie's shows is out of 18 songs, you go in knowing you'll hear 15 certain songs for sure.
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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Another way of saying it is Lindsey and Christine wanted to be artists, while Stevie wants to be a rock star.

Reminds me of the stories told about the BN days, where Stevie would have been willing to accept any gigs that came along, even playing in cheesy steakhouses because 'hey it was a paying gig' while Lindsey was about holding out for gigs that showcased them as artists and didn't reduce them to musical wallpaper.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Reminds me of the stories told about the BN days, where Stevie would have been willing to accept any gigs that came along, even playing in cheesy steakhouses because 'hey it was a paying gig' while Lindsey was about holding out for gigs that showcased them as artists and didn't reduce them to musical wallpaper.

She’s also the one who pushed to join Fleetwood Mac.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

She’s also the one who pushed to join Fleetwood Mac.

Yes. She had a stronger ambition and a definite goal to be successful. He was always more ambivalent, and was less willing to compromise to achieve success. She could be too willing to compromise sometimes.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Yes. She had a stronger ambition and a definite goal to be successful. He was always more ambivalent, and was less willing to compromise to achieve success. She could be too willing to compromise sometimes.

I can’t blame her. Her joining Fleetwood Mac was only because they wanted Lindsey on guitar and only if she and Christine got along. I’d imagine having your career not in your own hands was unnerving. While I genuinely believe she made BD because she had a lot of songs and Fleetwood Mac took too long to make records and had no idea that it would be THAT successful, it had to be a weight off her shoulders to not be at the whims of Lindsey or the others.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by jmn3

To me it does! Maybe the biggest mistake they made was immediately doing that 2014-15 tour when they did. But again, I’m sure Stephanie was the driver there. I think it would’ve been better to record the album first and start generating a Fleetwood Mac “reunited” buzz. And then maybe late in 2015 and into 2016, do the tour after the album was released. Their insistence on going right back on tour less than a year after ending the 2013 tour basically spelled out exactly what “this reconvening of these five people” was going to be about.

I've forgotten the timeline of Christine rejoining and the process of recording the album.

I think her rejoining was announced, work began on some tracks, they went out on tour, then came back and finished the album.

In theory they could have pushed back the tour to finish the album first, but that would have forced Stevie to either commit or not commit and probably would have caused major drama before the trucks pulled out of the rehearsal studio. For all we know they did discuss finishing the album first, but Stevie's camp put the kabosh on that in a very unclear way.

It's such a bummer that Lindsey purposely crafted material in her vocal range so the material would be flattering to her vocal range and it completely fell on deaf ears. I think he genuinely wanted to work together with her and was willing to do anything to make that as easy for her as possible.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I've forgotten the timeline of Christine rejoining and the process of recording the album.

I think her rejoining was announced, work began on some tracks, they went out on tour, then came back and finished the album.

In theory they could have pushed back the tour to finish the album first, but that would have forced Stevie to either commit or not commit and probably would have caused major drama before the trucks pulled out of the rehearsal studio. For all we know they did discuss finishing the album first, but Stevie's camp put the kabosh on that in a very unclear way.

It's such a bummer that Lindsey purposely crafted material in her vocal range so the material would be flattering to her vocal range and it completely fell on deaf ears. I think he genuinely wanted to work together with her and was willing to do anything to make that as easy for her as possible.

$tevie only cares about one thing- $tevie. And now the ending of our band is ruined.

[Tusky]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I've forgotten the timeline of Christine rejoining and the process of recording the album.

I think her rejoining was announced, work began on some tracks, they went out on tour, then came back and finished the album.

In theory they could have pushed back the tour to finish the album first, but that would have forced Stevie to either commit or not commit and probably would have caused major drama before the trucks pulled out of the rehearsal studio. For all we know they did discuss finishing the album first, but Stevie's camp put the kabosh on that in a very unclear way.

It's such a bummer that Lindsey purposely crafted material in her vocal range so the material would be flattering to her vocal range and it completely fell on deaf ears. I think he genuinely wanted to work together with her and was willing to do anything to make that as easy for her as possible.

But is it right to keep me waiting?
Is it right to make me hold out so long?
Yeah, is it right to keep me waiting?
In the shadow of our swan song

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Tusky

But is it right to keep me waiting?
Is it right to make me hold out so long?
Yeah, is it right to keep me waiting?
In the shadow of our swan song

That’s the song Lindsey wrote over someone’s track!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Yes. She had a stronger ambition and a definite goal to be successful. He was always more ambivalent, and was less willing to compromise to achieve success. She could be too willing to compromise sometimes.

Paul Fishkin: She was going to be a superstar or a nobody. There was nothing in between.