Another recycled thread...BTM outtakes

[chiliD]

Damn!

I just revisited the Other Side Of The Mask (the Behind The Mask outtakes) CD.

It still pisses me off that Rick Vito got the short end of the stick when it came to his songwriting contributions to the album. "Stand On The Rock" was by far his weakest tune, yet it MADE the album. Both "Intuition" (which eventually appeared in a much different form on his own King Of Hearts album) and "Got No Home" were far & away much better recordings and even had "hit potential" (something quite lacking with "Stand On The Rock").

Even Billy Burnette's tune "Victim Of Love" was quite catchy.

And, although the BTM version of "In The Back Of My Mind" is consistently in my top 5 ALL-TIME Mac tunes, the quite different outtake on this one (minus the long spacey intro of the final version) makes it almost a toss up as to which version I like better...this version has slightly different lyrics in the bridge. Billy's & Christine's voices really fit well together. Besides the missing intro, Rick Vito's killer guitar solo at the end is missing.

Even Stevie's "Affairs Of The Heart" outtakes become almost catchy on this.

The nearly "dance" type remix of "Save Me" is awesome. And, although the intro is nearly identical to the final version, it sounds crisper & cleaner, with each instrument clearly defineable. Then from there into a quick section that is bass-driven ("John, you're a MONSTER"). I think this version is 10x's better than the BTM version. Christine sings different lyrics and has a slightly different melody line in this one. Rick Vito's guitar tone on the solos & fills is just "buttah".

[GarboSpeaks!]

Now I gotta go find these and have another listen. I can't place a different Save Me at all, nor In The Back of My Mind. Do I have it and it was overlooked or am I missing something? To the bat cave.......

[macfan 57]

Except for "Behind The Mask" & "When The Sun Goes Down", I generally prefer the outtake versions to the album versions. I especially LOVE "Intuition" & Billy's "The Game Of Love". I like all of Rick's songs that didn't make the album. He got the shaft.

[David]

Originally Posted by macfan 57

I like all of Rick's songs that didn't make the album. He got the shaft.

Rick himself didn't decide which of his songs he wanted on the album?

[Miss Vicky]

Alas, I haven't heard these.

[foxyluva]

i do not have any of these either, could someone post them?

[gldstwmn]

Here's Save Me 1:

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...G292YEGL3P58OZ

Behind The Mask:

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...U2H6O22CFHRVM8

Intuition:

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...124XSMKMUAVXPV

Affairs Of The Heart 2:

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...32FKF8GWE41R0B

In The Back Of My Mind:

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...M10IW2HX4O6PPT

Hard Feelings:

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...G2JV99WGK5AYRN

Do You Know:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...H2701Y1Q6PCMND

[Neb-Maat-Re]

Thanks for these - I've never heard BTM so outtakes are great - although it sounds possible I could be disappointed by the official versions.

PS: the link for DYK seems to actaully be HFs.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Neb-Maat-Re

Thanks for these - I've never heard BTM so outtakes are great - although it sounds possible I could be disappointed by the official versions.

PS: the link for DYK seems to actaully be HFs.

Oops! It's fixed now. I think of these as an interesting alternative to the officially released versions. I quite enjoy them.

[gldstwmn]

Got No Home:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...50OG6JAC499MID

When It Comes To Love:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...C2AA1SN40YMNHL

Affairs Of The Heart 1:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...C1YCBRRNMANXN0

Victim Of Love:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...91AD1D2WCYYRS8

Save Me 2:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...V0H4BBXXBN01AJ

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Got No Home:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...50OG6JAC499MID

When It Comes To Love:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...C2AA1SN40YMNHL

Affairs Of The Heart 1:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...C1YCBRRNMANXN0

Victim Of Love:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...91AD1D2WCYYRS8

Save Me 2:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...V0H4BBXXBN01AJ

Thank you so much Im loving these!!!

[strandinthewind]

To this day, I think the record was sabotaged because you'd have to be a horse's a$$ not to recognize the clear superiority of the alt. versions to what went on the final press. I mean really.

[chiliD]

Since I posted this, I've found out (from Rick Vito himself) that "Got No Home" was NOT from the Behind The Mask sessions, it was recorded for consideration as one of the "new" songs for the 1988 Greatest Hits album.

Still, they picked "No Questions Asked" instead?

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Still, they picked "No Questions Asked" instead?

Well, I'm sure you know that many people only buy FM records because of you know who. Better to put a sh*tty song on there by her, than a great song, by some guitar player.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Still, they picked "No Questions Asked" instead?

And God ONLY knows why....