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Old 01-03-2019, 07:37 PM
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They picked two of the least interesting tracks for singles. Hearing "Say You Will" or "Peacekeeper" on TV would not motivate many people to say, "I've got to get that album." Even though some may dislike it, "Everybody Finds Out" or even "Destiny Rules" is different enough to do just that.

"Say You Will" was a doubly bad choice because not only is it fairly conventional, it also isn't particularly good.

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Old 01-03-2019, 08:51 PM
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Peacekeeper was what brought me to this album. I love that song.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:16 PM
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I always thought Say You Will the song was a weak single and song to be continuously pimped live throughout the tour. It always seemed like the most obvious “Christine-ish” song which just doesn’t work for Stevie. Everybody Finds Out or Thrown Down would’ve been far better choices IMO. I think from a live perspective, EFO would’ve been killer.

I liked Peacekeeper back when it came out. It’s a bit forgettable however.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:33 PM
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"At least give me time to change your mind" is cringe-worthy. It is completely unlyrical, not to mention a tepid line for a love song.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:48 PM
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Peacekeeper was what brought me to this album. I love that song.
It's a catchy song, but not a lifetime keeper. And I HATE the bird noises throughout it.
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:10 PM
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Peacekeeper was what brought me to this album. I love that song.
When I first heard it i CRINGED. Total rip off (even if unintentional) Kodachrome chorus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rlDTK6QI-w
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Steal Your Heart Away would have been the best first single to release off SYW.
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Old 01-05-2019, 04:46 PM
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Peacekeeper was a real single and a good one.
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Old 01-05-2019, 06:47 PM
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Steal Your Heart Away and Bleed to Love Her are great. Would not have done well on top 100 chart but would have on adult charts. Say You Will to me was Stevie was writing more like Christine. Not Stevie at all. I always wondered with proper marketing if Thrown Down could have done better given it was featured on Friends. Have to capitalize on that stuff.
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I always wondered with proper marketing if Thrown Down could have done better given it was featured on Friends. Have to capitalize on that stuff.
Absolutely.

"Say You Will" is a terrible choice. IMO, it shouldn't have even made the album. Just take the subject matter: a woman asking a man for one more chance, or at least some time to do the real convincing (maybe in the song's sequel?). It's the most tepid courtship imaginable, with the woman somehow both the pursuer and the weaker party.

Plus that line "at least give me time to change your mind" is just unwieldy and requires a bad meter to make it scan.

My problem with "Peacekeeper" is less pronounced, but concerns the subject matter, which is too impersonal and executed too cryptically for an anti-war song (and is also about as far from Fleetwood Mac's wheelhouse as one could imagine).

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I absolutely love SYW.
I loved it upon it's release, and still love it to this very day.
I think any song released as a first single would have struggled due to the rapidly changing music landscape of radio.
There simply wasn't a viable way to promote it.
MTV had drastic changes, barely playing music videos, and rock radio no longer was one genre. Most new rock songs got rotation on "alternative" stations and "Classic Rock" was regulated to a mostly oldies format.
All things considered, the album performed pretty well.
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Thrown Down (wall of sound version) was a HIT just WAITING to happen. I like the album Version as well, but this would have been GOLDEN!
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Thrown Down (wall of sound version) was a HIT just WAITING to happen. I like the album Version as well, but this would have been GOLDEN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ySQvnULZA
Love it. But why do the comments call it a Shangri La recording? It sounds like Fleetwood Mac to me: John's bass, Lindsey's guitar and vocals, Mick's drumming, etc.
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I've never liked Say You Will (the song). It's far too cutesy for my liking. It sounds like something Christine should have written and sung. I HATE the kids singing at the end.

Destiny Rules should have been the lead single.
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I've never liked Say You Will (the song). It's far too cutesy for my liking. It sounds like something Christine should have written and sung. I HATE the kids singing at the end.

Destiny Rules should have been the lead single.
Hating Stevie's niece..... that's not good. If only Stevie knew....
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