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[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Well nobody really knew what the girl was talking about... but it just sounded so good...

Ha, pretty obscure at best.

She said they did use her melody for part of the song, but Lindsey also said that they already had the tagline for it from Keep Me There, so it really seems like a true amalgamation from 4 of them, musically.

Michele

[Gailh]

the words have always been the most important part of the song for Stevie. I believe Christine once said that the sound "eeee" on a high note doesn't sound so good. so she would probably change the word. Stevie would leave it in.

Gail

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Gailh

the words have always been the most important part of the song for Stevie. I believe Christine once said that the sound "eeee" on a high note doesn't sound so good. so she would probably change the word. Stevie would leave it in.

Gail

Hold Me...
Got a Hold On Me

Christine must have had one too many glasses of Cristal...

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Hold Me...
Got a Hold On Me

Christine must have had one too many glasses of Cristal...

I was going to say that was the exception that proves the rule but that would just prompt a rash of other examples.

Gail

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Gailh

I was going to say that was the exception that proves the rule but that would just prompt a rash of other examples.

Gail

I have to give Stevie the edge on the other two when it came to lyrics.. just more interesting to me..

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by michelej1

But I wouldn't assume that about the melody. She had a song that used those words already, but there's no indication they took the melody from that song.

They could have, in part, but I wouldn't assume they did.

Michele

What do you think then? Did the vocal melody pre-exist the words? Or did she hand the words over and all of them worked on it?

I guess none of us will ever know for sure, but if have any info...

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

What do you think then? Did the vocal melody pre-exist the words? Or did she hand the words over and all of them worked on it?

I guess none of us will ever know for sure, but if have any info...

Maybe Ken's book will clear that up....

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

What do you think then? Did the vocal melody pre-exist the words? Or did she hand the words over and all of them worked on it?

I guess none of us will ever know for sure, but if have any info...

On the DVD-A, Stevie says she had the melody too, so she definitely had a vocal melody with her words. I just don't think they adopted that melody whole cloth. I think Christine had somewhat of a melody going too already.

But you're right, I don't know. They all talk about it in different pieces rather than telling what happened from start to finish.

Michele

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Maybe Ken's book will clear that up....

Perhaps Christine will be too busy being an eccentric, dog feeding, cold fish to read it?

Or perhaps it will be f*ckin stupid?

Gail

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Gailh

Perhaps Christine will be too busy being an eccentric, dog feeding, cold fish to read it?

Or perhaps it will be f*ckin stupid?

Gail

I can't wait to read it especially with the with the anomosity....

[michelej1]

Ha. It makes me rethink what Stevie said about Christine:

She's the one person that can walk in and say "You look so bad today, you should go home" and you won't feel bad, you'll just go home and change and come back.

At the time I thought she just meant that Chris would tell you if you looked hungover or like you hadn't gotten enough sleep and she'd tell you and then you would go home and come back refreshed. But now, maybe I'm thinking Chris just walked up and said things like, "Your shirt is stupid" and the Macsters ran home and changed clothes.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Ha. It makes me rethink what Stevie said about Christine:



At the time I thought she just meant that Chris would tell you if you looked hungover or like you hadn't gotten enough sleep and she'd tell you and then you would go home and come back refreshed. But now, maybe I'm thinking Chris just walked up and said things like, "Your shirt is stupid" and the Macsters ran home and changed clothes.

Michele

And then again, others have said she was like a mother in many respects... i'm so confused...

I like the way Carol Anne portrays CM

[David]

Originally Posted by michelej1

On the DVD-A, Stevie says she had the melody too, so she definitely had a vocal melody with her words. I just don't think they adopted that melody whole cloth. I think Christine had somewhat of a melody going too already.

Stevie may have had the chorus melody. That sounds like her. The complexity of the harmonic structure of the verses wasn't a Stevie Nicks invention. It probably wasn't even a Christine McVie invention -- solely. It seems to me, owing to its oddness, that it came from Lindsey & specifically from Lindsey's guitar work. What the vocalists are doing on the verses is harmonizing an unusual progression of dominant 7ths & major 6ths. That sort of thing doesn't come out of Stevie Nicks, & it typically doesn't come out of a keyboardist like Christine, either. But it is far more likely to have sprung from a Travis-picked acoustic guitar part.

The three of them may have all just been trying to harmonize together, without really knowing much about the structure or harmonic progression of what they were doing by instinct, by vibe, by feel.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by David

The three of them may have all just been trying to harmonize together, without really knowing much about the structure or harmonic progression of what they were doing by instinct, by vibe, by feel.

That's a f*cking stupid theory. I would rather wear Ken's shirt.

[michelej1]

Here's a quote from Christine on the process:

We’ve gone in with one song and come out with a completely different song. The Chain is a classic example. It was originally a song of mine which didn’t have a melody; it just had chords. We did the basic track for that and we didn’t get any farther, except the guitar solo, which Lindsey played live on the basic track. The only part we kept was the end; we threw out the beginning of the song and restructured it step by step, editing on bits of dobro and guitar. We still didn’t have vocal ideas, so that’s where Stevie stepped in. It took about six months going from one stage to the way it ended up.