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Old 02-08-2024, 11:31 AM
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It sounded like he didn't like Lindsey in the first place, before the feud.
I wonder why that is?
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Old 02-08-2024, 11:39 AM
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I think the "No finger pointing" comment really reeks of not wanting to get in any additional spats with team Azoff. Sadly, I bet there's been a fair amount of bridges burned/blacklisting that Azoff made sure happened as a result of the fallout. It sounded like he didn't like Lindsey in the first place, before the feud.
Irving knows that's Old Goatsy is a bigger cash cow. It probably just boils down to that. All Irving cares about is money.
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Irving knows that's Old Goatsy is a bigger cash cow. It probably just boils down to that. All Irving cares about is money.
Exactly, if he found a way to make more $$$ from Buck, (more than Goat) the opposite would have happened and Christine would be like:

"I love Stevie, but we are a much better band now." {There I said it Mick, now give me my $25 mil.}
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Irving knows that's Old Goatsy is a bigger cash cow. It probably just boils down to that. All Irving cares about is money.
The ironic part about “Free Fallin’” being in the setlist is that Irving rejected Full Moon Fever when he was heading up MCA Records because he “didn’t hear a hit.”
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The ironic part about “Free Fallin’” being in the setlist is that Irving rejected Full Moon Fever when he was heading up MCA Records because he “didn’t hear a hit.”
I can't stand that song, tbh. I would have rejected it, too.
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I wonder why that is?
Because Lindsey wasn't a "yes man" to the Nicks posse?
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I can't stand that song, tbh. I would have rejected it, too.
Agreed. It's cloying. Or maybe grating. Who knows? I hate it.
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I think the "No finger pointing" comment really reeks of not wanting to get in any additional spats with team Azoff. Sadly, I bet there's been a fair amount of bridges burned/blacklisting that Azoff made sure happened as a result of the fallout. It sounded like he didn't like Lindsey in the first place, before the feud.
I never, ever understood that whole situation. It feels like Lindsey felt like maybe if he aligned himself with the devil he'd reap better rewards... but all he did was let the devil in where he could do more damage. How Lindsey thought he was somehow being smart by making Irving his manager is really a sad commentary on Lindsey's ability to judge someone's character.
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Agreed. It's cloying. Or maybe grating. Who knows? I hate it.
I do love, I Will Run To You.
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I do love, I Will Run To You.
I like a lot of TP compositions and performances. Just hate Free Falling...
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I never, ever understood that whole situation. It feels like Lindsey felt like maybe if he aligned himself with the devil he'd reap better rewards... but all he did was let the devil in where he could do more damage. How Lindsey thought he was somehow being smart by making Irving his manager is really a sad commentary on Lindsey's ability to judge someone's character.
Yeah I never understood that either. I don't remember, was Irving already managing Stevie when Lindsey came onboard? If so, that's insane that he thought that was a good idea. Maybe he thought it would be easier to navigate Fleetwood Mac projects if Irving managed both of them and it was all under one roof?

I can only conclude that the majority of conversations leading up to Lindsey moving over to Irving must have taken place with Irving's staff and not Irving himself. His staff must of blown a lot of smoke up his a** and somehow convinced him Irving was the right fit. What was Irving's angle!? It's pretty clear that Lindsey's solo work was never as commercial, what's in it for him? Complete business control over Fleetwood Mac I suppose.
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I like a lot of TP compositions and performances. Just hate Free Falling...
Here Comes The Girl is my favorite.

Or is it Here Comes The Dude?

Tom wasn't The Great Enunciator(er?)...
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I can't stand that song, tbh. I would have rejected it, too.
It also had “Runnin’ Down A Dream,” “I Won’t Back Down,” and “Yer So Bad” and went on to sell five million copies.
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It also had “Runnin’ Down A Dream,” “I Won’t Back Down,” and “Yer So Bad” and went on to sell five million copies.
Yes it was one of the biggest albums that year. People did not want to buy into a Tom Petty solo album.....like why is this happening since he is the lead singer of the Heartbreakers. Stevie's friends Tom Petty and Don Henley had a HUGE year in 1989. The biggest of their careers. Don even won a Grammy. Yet Stevie released a dud. There was a time her stuff smoked their stuff on the charts. Full Moon Fever and The End of The Innocence both sold 6 million copies in 1989. Stevie's OSOTM sold 500k copies in 1989. It sold more and would eventually go platinum many years later.

Stevie does Petty songs in concert but I think the one that fits her best is Change of Heart. I can imagine her singing that. Its such a better groove than I Need To Know.
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Because Lindsey wasn't a "yes man" to the Nicks posse?
Yet people say constantly here that Lindsey only said the Buck/Vie album WASN’T a FM album because he was afraid to cross Stevie, which would have made him a “yes man.” Remember, Lindsey only acknowledged what every single fan on the planet had known AFTER he had been fired. So that doesn’t seem to have been the problem.

I think SteveMacD has been right all along about what the problem was between Irving and Lindsey.
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