McVIE WITHOUT THE MAC (billboard mag sales #'s) - Page 2

amber · #16 10-07-2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I know - Christine just writes those warm chestnuts and her voice amplifies that emotion. I love her for it!!!!!!

What? her voice and compositions sounds the most clinical to me (yes, i like it) but never a variance, never an uneven beat, never any improv vocals...

always the same clear tone...

HomerMcvie · #17 10-07-2004, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Waaaaiiit - you ranted about this, but we're supposed to keep our rants to ourselves? I love SYW. I guess it's a difference of people who like mellow, smooth, non rockin stuff, and people who like stuff that rocks, like SYW does

Well, "sucks" might've been a bit harsh(I'm not feeling well today, so maybe I was a little hard on them).
I agree with Strand that the combination of the THREE is what has always been the best FM. When you take the best of all their songs(which, in turn, reduces the number of clunkers), that's when you have, "viable product".
Quick, tell me where the quote "viable product" comes from???

amber · #18 10-07-2004, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Well, "sucks" might've been a bit harsh(I'm not feeling well today, so maybe I was a little hard on them).
I agree with Strand that the combination of the THREE is what has always been the best FM. When you take the best of all their songs(which, in turn, reduces the number of clunkers), that's when you have, "viable product".
Quick, tell me where "viable product" comes from???

don't know, i think it's a phrase lots of people use. But anyway, i suppose you're right about all three of them, but actually, I don't listen to McVie's songs much on the albums. Although, i GREATLY appreciate her keyboardness and harmonies on the other's songs. Don't get me wrong, she's a great talent and all, I just only love a few of her songs. They lack the fast percussiveness that i love. And the vocal...intensity and unpredictability?

GypsySorcerer · #19 10-09-2004, 01:17 PM

I agree that the five of them together is the best recipe. Album sales prove it. I like both SYW and ITM. I'd be happier if the best cuts from each album were brought together in a single disc.

I don't think Chris' sales numbers are that bad. I mean, they're low, but who was expecting more? Of the three writers, she has the least name recognition and has been out of the public eye since 1998. Plus, the album had virtually no promotion and was released on an indie label. So I think Chris should be happy with herself.

GypsySorcerer · #20 10-09-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Waaaaiiit - you ranted about this, but we're supposed to keep our rants to ourselves? I love SYW. I guess it's a difference of people who like mellow, smooth, non rockin stuff, and people who like stuff that rocks, like SYW does

I think Chris' songs on ITM could have benefitted from Lindsey's production. That said, I think ITM is a very enjoyable album. It's like having a cup of coffee with an old friend. That familiar voice, singing about the good and bad in relationships. Actually, I think you might enjoy the album a little, Amber. Her voice is in top form, and some (not all) I would rank with her best work.

dougl · #21 10-09-2004, 01:48 PM

"viable product"
from the tusk tour documentary video
the interview with christine on her sailboat?
i love that line, especially the way she says it
correct me if i'm wrong
good day

HomerMcvie · #22 10-09-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dougl

"viable product"
from the tusk tour documentary video
the interview with christine on her sailboat?
i love that line, especially the way she says it
correct me if i'm wrong
good day

Ding Ding Ding!!!

Dougl, you win the game. I love how she says "viable product" in that dark, husky voice. She could read my cereal box and sound like a million bucks (which is not that bad of an idea!

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David · #23 10-09-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

I don't think Chris' sales numbers are that bad. I mean, they're low, but who was expecting more?

I wasn't expecting the album to sell anything, but that's beside the point, frankly. To sell 6,000 copies of your new album is essentially to hit your network of family, friends, business & career associates, & other acquaintances -- plus a few hundred fans on the Internet who check into www.christinemcvie.com & other sites that announced the release.

But it's a low, low number for Christine McVie -- who was, after all, a high-profile member of a high-profile megaband & the writer & voice of umpteen hit singles that are still frequently played on classic-rock stations in America.

By the way, is that 6,000 number for units sold or units shipped? I don't get into the nomenclature much but I know there's often some confusion over the two when numbers are publicized.

I don't think Chris really cares whether 100,000 albums sell or not. Her attitude seems to be "Whatever. . ." (said with a Birmingham accent, of course). It's a good little album -- very unassuming, pretense-free -- but it's retro-mainstream instrumentation isn't the sort of thing that appeals to the majority of today's kids, who want edge (or Edge).

HomerMcvie · #24 10-09-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David

But it's a low, low number for Christine McVie -- who was, after all, a high-profile member of a high-profile megaband & the writer & voice of umpteen hit singles that are still frequently played on classic-rock stations in America.

But, she never seemed to have the name recognition of the other two. All told, Lindsey probably wouldn't have the name recognition he has if it hadn't been the relationship with you know who. You know, old what's her name.

Maybe Chris should've learned to twirl around like a drunken sailor.

[/QUOTE]I don't think Chris really cares whether 100,000 albums sell or not. Her attitude seems to be "Whatever. . ." (said with a Birmingham accent, of course). It's a good little album -- very unassuming, pretense-free -- but it's retro-mainstream instrumentation isn't the sort of thing that appeals to the majority of today's kids, who want edge (or Edge).[/QUOTE]

But I think it's a very classic Christine MAC Vie album. Screw the kids! If Chris tried to make an album geared towards them, well, #1- she wouldn't; and #2- I wouldn't have this lovely, lovely piece of work that I truly can't get enough of. For her, I certainly wish it would go at least gold. But for me, she's made me a very happy camper.

I just hope she makes us another gem in a couple of years.

MacMan · #25 10-09-2004, 03:20 PM

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By the way, is that 6,000 number for units sold or units shipped?

It's sold units based on soundscan... Scanned purchases. Shipped units could, and proabably well exceed that.

macfan 57 · #26 10-09-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by David

It's a good little album -- very unassuming, pretense-free -- but it's retro-mainstream instrumentation isn't the sort of thing that appeals to the majority of today's kids, who want edge (or Edge).

This is true. But, then I'm not a kid anymore, so this album is exactly what appeals to me.

I would have been embarrassed for her if she had tried to do something just to appeal to kids today. By the way David, you describe ITM as very unassuming, pretense free. Well, that's exactly how I would describe Christine McVie herself. That's one of the reasons I've been a fan of Christine's for so many years.

I also don't think she cares about album sales. She's said so in quite a few of these interviews. She certainly doesn't need the money. This was done just for the fun of it. Like Homer, I HOPE this isn't the last we ever hear from her.

mondaymornin1 · #27 10-11-2004, 08:47 AM

I hope this isn't the last we hear from her either! I finally got my copy of ITM this weekend, and I didn't realize how much I miss her until I gave it a listen! I love it! I love SYW too. Wish they were all still together. Chris's songs always mellow me out, calm me, etc. She's a brilliant songwriter and musician, and I really miss her presence with the band now more than ever.

snwriter · #28 10-11-2004, 01:06 PM

I hate to say it, but if these numbers are the true sales figure, it's unlikely that she'd get a record label to release another album in the future.

HomerMcvie · #29 10-11-2004, 01:16 PM

Well, that's the deal with these independent "adult" labels like Koch. They don't have a whole lot of dough involved, so it doesn't take 100,000 copies sold for them to break even. Really, isn't distribution(and maintaining their website) all they do? If getting another album released might be a problem, she could always sell downloads.

I'll take my Chris any way I can get her.

macfan 57 · #30 10-11-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

If getting another album released might be a problem, she could always sell downloads.

I was thinking the same thing. She has a website. If she wanted to release another album, she could sell the CDs from her website or even allow fans to directly download the tracks. Also, I'm sure she didn't spend much money to make In The Meantime. I doubt she has to sell much to at least cover expenses.

Last month there was an article in USA Today about Roger McGuinn of the Byrds. He's probably pretty close in age to Christine. He had a hard time with his record label due to low sales. So now, he sells his music right from his website. He said he doesn't sell alot, but he sells enough to make some money & he's having fun doing it. He has complete freedom to do what he wants to do.