The Wild Heart ~ Outtakes & Alternate Versions; Why so few?

[markolas]

Was Baby Doll recorded for The Wild Heart? It sounds like it could be from around that time - her voice sounds a little more raspy than it did on Bella Donna. I've always loved that song. I haven't listened to One More Tomorrow in a while, but I remember not caring for it.

Were The Dealer & If You Were My Love actually recorded for The Wild Heart? I always assumed the last of The Dealer outtakes were from the Bella Donna sessions, and If You Were My Love was initially intended for Mirage; the next version after that I know about is the Street Angel version.

[ontheEdgeof17]

How about the 'is it her/isn't it her' All Over You? That would be around the Wild Heart era, I assume, since Prince played on Stand Back.

[mikebise]

The fully recorded version of "Baby Doll" is dated 1981 in the Master Reel To Reels, so it's for Bella Donna. Before the Masters, I always thought it was for The Wild Heart, too, or Rock A Little even! (The keyboard/drum machine demos are from 1980).

Stevie wrote "If You Were My Love" in 1980, and even recorded it for Bella Donna, but not a finished version is in the Masters, but pretty close (several 1981 studio versions exist). I think the Mirage version gets put on CDs containing outtakes from The Wild Heart because they are from the same era, more or less, since it was recorded in May 1981 in France, after Bella Donna was completed and about to be released. If you just are interested in Stevie rarities, all of her Mirage outtakes don't quite make up a full CD ~ almost. But when most of the Stevie comp CDs were made in the 1990s, it was to consolidate as much material as possible of Stevie's works in order to share them with friends. Or sell them, as many did back then as well, unfortunately. So things got lumped together.

PLUS: Songs trickled out at different times. The Mirage version of "Smile At You" leaked out many years before the Mirage version of "If You Were My Love" surfaced in 1998.

No version of "The Dealer" exists from The Wild Heart that I have heard. After Tusk and Bella Donna, Stevie recorded "The Dealer" again for Rock A Little, but no copies of that recording have surfaced (that I know of). Again, things get lumped together on comp CDs, just like "Jimmy Come On Back" mistakenly being on outtakes CDs for The Wild Heart.

[mikebise]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

How about the 'is it her/isn't it her' All Over You? That would be around the Wild Heart era, I assume, since Prince played on Stand Back.

As I've posted several times, it is her. Stevie herself turned in "All Over You" to Atlantic's Manhattan office in February 1998 for possible inclusion on Enchanted. Stevie herself hand delivered these tapes of songs, including "All Over You", piano demos for "The Nightmare" and "Gypsy Beggar", demos for "Twisted" and "It's Late", outtakes of "How Still My Love", unreleased extended dance version of "Edge Of Seventeen" and others. I know this to be true, because I know the guy who worked there at Atlantic who copied those songs and leaked them in 1998.

I always thought "All Over You" was from Rock A Little based on Stevie's voice. she's given several different stories about how many times she's met Prince, when "the last time" she ever saw him, "never saw him again", etc., and been proven wrong. So, I personally doubt those few hours in 1983 doing "Stand Back" is the ONLY time Stevie ever saw or worked with Prince.

I could be wrong and it's from 1983, of course. But it is her.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by mikebise

As I've posted several times, it is her. Stevie herself turned in "All Over You" to Atlantic's Manhattan office in February 1998 for possible inclusion on Enchanted. Stevie herself hand delivered these tapes of songs, including "All Over You", piano demos for "The Nightmare" and "Gypsy Beggar", demos for "Twisted" and "It's Late", outtakes of "How Still My Love", unreleased extended dance version of "Edge Of Seventeen" and others. I know this to be true, because I know the guy who worked there at Atlantic who copied those songs and leaked them in 1998.

I always thought "All Over You" was from Rock A Little based on Stevie's voice. she's given several different stories about how many times she's met Prince, when "the last time" she ever saw him, "never saw him again", etc., and been proven wrong. So, I personally doubt those few hours in 1983 doing "Stand Back" is the ONLY time Stevie ever saw or worked with Prince.

I could be wrong and it's from 1983, of course. But it is her.

Hmmm. Well, she did say she went to his house once. Maybe they recorded there?

[mikebise]

Originally Posted by 76sparky

Just found these discs - not listened to them yet so not sure of the quality if them.


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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OKTAMOLS
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These DL as .rar and my computer doesn't know how to play them. ???

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by mikebise

These DL as .rar and my computer doesn't know how to play them. ???

You need a converter to change them to mp3.

I have StuffIt Expander. Works like a dream.

[mikebise]

Ahhh.... DLed it. StuffIt is not able to be used with my iMac. Oh well. Sure would have loved to go through those outtakes and see if there were any cool upgrades...

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by mikebise

Ahhh.... DLed it. StuffIt is not able to be used with my iMac. Oh well. Sure would have loved to go through those outtakes and see if there were any cool upgrades...

Stuffit (although craptacular) can be used on the Mac OS. There are other programs that can expand .rar files besides Stuffit, such as The Unarchiver (free too).

[mikebise]

I downloaded StuffIt for Mac, and afterwards, opening it, it said StufIt cannot be used with my Mac OS~X. So, dunno.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by mikebise

I downloaded StuffIt for Mac, and afterwards, opening it, it said StufIt cannot be used with my Mac OS~X. So, dunno.

Odd. Works just fine on mine.

[welcomechris]

Originally Posted by mikebise

The Wild Heart remains the era which has the least amount of known outtakes and demos, especially for the songs on the album. No known alternates exist for songs like "Gate And Garden" and "I Will Run To You". Compared to all of Stevie's other albums, solo and with Fleetwood Mac from Tusk and forward, The Wild Heart has the least amount of outtakes and rarities. Perhaps this is because of the short amount of time Stevie had between Bella Donna and Mirage, both those tours, and The Wild Heart.

Here is a list of known extra recorded material from The Wild Heart~

"Garbo" ~ B-side of "Stand Back". Written in 1973, after the infamous nude BuckinghamNicks cover shoot. "Garbo" would get new life in 1998 when it would be on Stevie's box set, as well as part of the Enchanted tour set list.

"Violet And Blue" ~ Against All Odds soundtrack, March 1984. Written and recorded originally in 1982, the movie uses the earlier recording while the actual soundtrack has a later version. "Violet And Blue" was remixed in October 1990 by Chris Lord-Alge for possible inclusion on TimeSpace.

"Destiny" ~ Written in 1974. Recorded in Dallas in 1982 for The Wild Heart, produced by Gordon Perry. A full six-minute version exists, as well as a four-minute edit. Written "on a break" with Lindsey, "Destiny" is about another man who captivated Stevie during this time. "Enchanted" utilizes many of the same lyrics, probably taking its place on The Wild Heart, although it is a separate song. "Destiny" would find an official home on Street Angel in 1994 (recorded in 1992, with touch-ups applied in 1993 & 1994).

"Belle Fleur" ~ Earliest demos are dated 1981. Recorded for Bella Donna, and Stevie gave an interview in 1982 listing "Belle Fleur" (and the above three songs) as already recorded for her second solo album. The full band versions that exist are probably from the Bella Donna sessions.

"Julia" ~ Written in January 1980. Fully recorded for Bella Donna (several takes exist), "Julia" was also fully recorded for The Wild Heart in Dallas in 1982, produced by Gordon Perry. "Julia" was taken off of The Wild Heart (and Bella Donna) because Jimmy Iovine hated the song (per my 1996 interview with Gordon Perry here in Dallas).

"All The Beautiful Worlds" ~ Recorded in Dallas in 1982, produced by Gordon Perry, for The Wild Heart. Percussion guides as well as payment authorization dated October 1983 exist for Bobbye Hall to do percussion overdubs on the existing track. Was this meant to be as a b-side for "Nightbird"? Or work for Stevie's next album? ("One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star" was recorded in July 1983 for Rock A Little while Stevie was on tour for The Wild Heart, so she was already working on that next album!)

"One More Tomorrow" ~ Stevie wrote the lyrics, Sandy Stewart and David Munday wrote the music. After Stevie leaves it off of The Wild Heart, Sandy would write her own lyrics for the music, entitle it "Leave It All Behind", and put it on her first album, Cat Dancer (March 1984).

"Baby Don't Lose Your Heart" ~ Stevie recorded a version of Bruce Springsteen's then-unreleased song, "Janey Don't Lose Heart", for The Wild Heart in 1983. Bruce wasn't pleased that Stevie changed the title subject to be a male, and had her turn over all copies of her version back to him. Bruce put his version out as a b-side in 1985 (and subsequent CD compilations), but Stevie's version remains completely unheard by fans.

"Dial The Number" ~ Written in 1982, lyrics by Stevie, music by Sandy Stewart, and recorded for The Wild Heart. Stevie would again record this song (several takes) for The Other Side Of The Mirror, and again axe it from the final release.

"Unknown Title" ~ In Spring 1983, Stevie gave a short interview with a women's magazine (I'm working on it right now to quote the source exactly, but it really happened!) about her upcoming new album, The Wild Heart. She said that she wrote a duet that she wanted to sing with Sting, but she didn't have the nerve. Finally, she called him up, they recorded it, and it was going to be on The Wild Heart. Of course, it wasn't. Synchronicity came out the same time as The Wild Heart; was that a conflict? Also, why was Stevie too scared to call Sting in 2001 and ask him to sing her re-recording of "Bombay Sapphires" if they'd already worked together? (I will find this 1983 interview if it kills me!)

"The Charmed Ones (Song For The City Of Hope)" ~ Written in 1982, lyrics by Stevie, music by Jeff Piergeorge & Earl Dwayne Russell. Presumably recorded for The Wild Heart, although the widely-distributed fully recorded version would seem to be from 1985 or 1986 (it's dated January 1986) based on Stevie's voice. It would definitely seem this song would be written for The Wild Heart, given its subject matter and connection to Robin Anderson.

Close enough to The Wild Heart:

"Smiling Islands" ~ From Robbie Patton's album, Orders From Headquarters (1982). This duet with Stevie is almost a prequel to The Wild Heart in regards to Stevie's voice.

"I Pretend" ~ Stevie's duet with Sandy Stewart on Cat Dancer, released March 1984, but presumably recorded in Late 1983. Stevie's voice reeks of The Wild Heart era. (Written by Sandy). Note: Stevie also sings backup on "Get My Way" and "Cat Dancers".

"Sorcerer" ~ Streets Of Fire soundtrack (May 1984). A 1985 Austin American-Statesman interview with Marilyn Martin revealed that Marilyn and Stevie (and most of Stevie's band!) recorded their version in the Summer of 1983 while on The Wild Heart tour. Although Marilyn sings "lead" on most of the song, Stevie just can't help herself and winds up taking over the final third.

Outtakes/Demos:

True Alternate versions and demos exist for the following album tracks:
"Nothing Ever Changes"
"Beauty And The Beast"
"Sable On Blond"
"If Anyone Falls"

Longer edits of the album versions exist for "Wild Heart" and "Nightbird". And early mixes of "Stand Back" are out there, too.

The 2007 remixes for "Stand Back" that accompanied Crystal Visions utilize extra previously-unreleased ending vocals by Stevie from the original 1983 recordings.

Well I am listening to the Pittsburgh 1994 live version of Destiny where stevie says at the beginning "I Was 18 When I Wrote This Song" so 1966 not 74'

[MariaA37]

Originally Posted by 76sparky

Just found these discs - not listened to them yet so not sure of the quality if them.

Wild Heart Demos (Disc 1)
All The Beautiful Worlds #1
One More Tomorrow
If You Were My Love
If Anyone Falls
Baby Doll
Beauty And The Beast (Piano Demo)
All The Beautiful Worlds #2
Belle Fleur
Dial The Number (Slow)
Greta
Stand Back
Nothing Ever Changes
The Dealer

Wild Heart Demos (Disc 2)
Stand Back #1 (Live)
Beauty And The Beast (Live)
The Dealer
Wild Heart (Full End Lyric)
Dial The Number
If You Were My Love
Jimmy Come Back #1
Julia
Mistaken Love
Jimmy Come Back #2
Nightbird (Full End Lyric)
Stand Back #2 (Live)
Violet And Blue
Jimmy Come Back #3

Wild Heart Demos (Disc 3)
Wild Heart #1
Julia
Destiny
If Anyone Falls
Stand Back
One More Tomorrow
Nightbird
Belle Fleur

Wild Heart Demos (Disc 4)
Dial the Number
Wild Heart (Dressing Room Demo)
Nothing Ever Changes
Tied Up in Promises
Stand Back (DJ Mix)
Sable on Blonde
Violet and Blue
Beauty & the Beast (Blues Demo)


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~Maria

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by MariaA37

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~Maria

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[michelej1]

[Excerpt from Sharon Van Etten article]

Drunk in Love with Sharon Van Etten

Longreads Or Whatever By Eric Sundermann, May 22, 2014 Noisy Vice
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I’m back from the restroom, and they both smile at me upon my return. Fleetwood Mac plays in the background, and I’m reminded of this old video of Stevie Nicks I’ve watched too many times to count. It’s from the early 80s, her backstage at a Rolling Stone photo shoot. She’s getting her make up done. Her hair’s in a perm. White dress. In a quick moment, a fluttering piano picks up and Stevie acts like she’s playing air guitar, before starting to sing along, repeating the refrain of “Wild Heart,” one of the most vulnerable songs of her career full of very vulnerable songs. “Where is the reason / well don’t blame it on me,” she croons in the only way that Stevie Nicks can, “blame it on my wild heart.” At the end of the video, she laughs, clapping and pointing around the room, completely unaware at how arresting her voice is. She smiles. There’s a captivating feeling surrounding her presence. She’s confident, not arrogant; charming, not pandering; lovely, not precious.